Gallop: obama 47% Romney 47%

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  1. PatriotNews

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    I hope he does. He should be slamming Obama for his horrible record in office and the crap he is pulling with the "participation rate" in the monthly jobless claims. What a farce Obama is. REAL unemployment is much higher and Romney should be slamming that down people's throats over and over again.

    Romney needs to take off the kiddy gloves and get with the program.
     
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    Quite a change from just a few days ago:

    09/5-11/2012 obama 50% Romney 43%

    obama is trending downward, and Romney is trending upward.
     
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    Write this down and quote me on it: Willard Mitt Romney will never become President of the United States.
     
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    Why do you still believe in Obama?
     
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    It has nothing to do with believing in Obama. At the moment Romney simply does not have the electoral votes and it's unlikely (although certainly not impossible) that he can get them. Ergo, Obama is very likely to win. Whether you "believe" in him, like him, hate him or don't care. Basically, it's nothing more than math.
     
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    They were saying the same thing about Reagan/Carter in Oct of 1980 and that was a complete blow out for Reagan.
     
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    So you're going to stick with using Gallup?
     
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    Gallup's poll is based on registered voters and not likely voters. The two samples are very different with likely voters tending to trend 2 to 4 points in conservatives favor. I tie among registered voters is a win for Romney. Gallup and most other pollsters are oversampling Democrats and African Americans because they use numbers from the last presidential election for this election, but that is problematic. Are blacks going to turn out in record numbers like they did in 2008? Probably not. Obama's policies have harmed blacks disproportionately. Are Democrats going to get out the vote like they did in 2008? No, probably not. Obama couldn't even fill the outdoor stadium during his convention. Poll numbers at this time are notoriously unreliable and things could have a 12 point swing in the next two months.
     
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    Very true. For instance I think I just saw a Wisconsin poll showing Obama with a 12-point lead. However, if the election were actually held today, they'd probably be within 2-3%, and I'd give Romney the edge. Independents and undecided voters will tend to break for the challenger, I think. There's more reason for them to try something different with Romney than to stick with the same under Obama.
     
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    Bookmarked.
     
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    Doesn't change anything I said, but OK.
     
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    Whistling through the graveyard.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

    Whatever Gallup is saying about the national polls the state by state polls is where the election is won.


    Colorado Obama +5
    Florida Obama +3
    Pennsylvania Obama +6
    Ohio Obama +7
    Virginia Obama +7

    Personally, I'd love to see Romney win the popular vote and Obama win the College. Just so I can enjoy the sounds of "conservatives" heads exploding.
     
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    I always wonder why they bother with national polls when we don't elect Presidents that way. You can win by a couple percentage points nationally and run away with the electoral college. And vice versa. What matters in this election is what the polls look like in a very small number of swing states. That's why I say it looks like Romney can't win unless something changes by November. And it certainly could. But as of today he clearly does not appear to have the electoral votes to win no matter what any national poll says.

    Not that it matters which one wins anyway.
     
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    That is the way it has been going and will continue, especially after the middle east fiasco, and more crappy economic numbers coming out.
     
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    It's a lot closer than you think, your math is thrown off by over polled Democrats...., that's a fact not an opinion...Remember when you lost the Congress? According to the polls it never should have been a land slide,,,it was...

    Also according to the polls Reagan was down seven points around now, we know how that turned out. Never trust the polls by the Liberal Media...
     
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    I never said it wasn't.

    Link?

    I was never in Congress.

    That doesn't change anything I said.
     
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    Mitt's campaign is going great...wonderful, in fact.

    That's why he's getting all this advice from guys like Karl Rove on how to change it so he can salvage a victory in November.
     
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    Obama is gonna lose. Sorry.....
     
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    1)Knowing that undecided voters typically vote overwhelmingly for the challenger.
    2)Knowing most polls are skewed pro-Democrat if you look at their sampling.
    3)Knowing that in 2010 and in the Wisconsin recall election the polls were proven to be pro-Democrat.
    4)Knowing that most Americans are not completely brain-dead.

    I feel pretty good about the election.
     
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    Gallup and Rasmussen both show the raced tied with 6-8% being undecided.

    Rasmussen was the most accurate in 2008.
     
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    Fail, RCP is a conglomerate of polls, some a week or more old. Rasmussen O 46% R 46%.
     

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