Gallup Poll: Biden Worst President in Polling History

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    NEVER Happened...:bored:

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    NO PROOF of either misguided claim...:bored:
     
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    " It all depends on what the meaning of the word "approval " is ...
     
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    Only thing missing from that post was Mika ;) The left think parroting stupid talk show host somehow makes them look smart :icon_picknose:
     
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    That’s true. The only candidate that Americans dislike more than Biden is trump.
    The cons could be cruising to a win if they’d had the courage and intelligence to throw trump to the curb and choose anyone else.
     
  5. jcarlilesiu

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    You want somebody to determine facts before they occur?

    We can tell you what we think will happen, we can't tell you future facts.

    The inability to understand what a fact is continues to be troubling
     
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    I have the original Gallup poll - https://news.gallup.com/poll/644252...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    There’s no doubt that most Americans don’t want Biden reelected, at the same time most Americans don’t want Trump back in the white house either. Both are in a basic tie in how all Americans view them. Biden 41.3% favorable/55.7% unfavorable with Trump at 42.9% favorable/54.2% unfavorable.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/favorability/2024candidates.html

    In plain English, a majority of Americans don’t like neither one. Hence the basic tie between them when taking the MOE into consideration. Two candidate race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    Five way race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein

    Since most Americans don’t want neither one to become the next president, who’ll win? I’d say it’ll be the candidate they view as the least worse candidate, the lesser of two bum choices, the candidate they want to lose the least. Not win, as most Americans don’t want neither one, but lose the least. What this shows is how we select our presidential candidates is completely broken. It’s a failure. Only for the second time since Gallup and Pew Research began keeping track of favorable/unfavorable ratings in 1952 has both major parties offered candidates with a below 50% favorable and above 50% unfavorable. 2016 was the first with Clinton at 38% favorable/56% unfavorable and Trump at 36% favorable/60% unfavorable in 2016 and this year. This is becoming a habit for both major parties, choosing the least liked and most unwanted candidates for most Americans to choose from.
     
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    You forgot truth.
     
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    Was it with your posts, being deliberately obtuse, Trump is about to go on trial for what he did to stop the election process. You asked for a reason, it was given to you, yet your response is at best sophmoric.
     
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    All that said and done, this will be another very close election.
     
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    Going to make it all the more of a sore spot if Trump loses to him again in November.

    Won't matter how much people don't like Joe Biden, including his voters. It will only matter whether they dislike Donald Trump more. That's what got him elected the first time, it's what will get him elected this year for a 2nd term if he wins. Hell, that same dynamic is what got Trump elected in 2016. If Trump had never won in 2016, he might have won in 2020, but he'd already shown the country how much of a self-obsessed train wreck he is.
     
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    And political leaders without vision is how we end up in prolonged recessions
     
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    Oh my goodness polls have spoken. No need for election. let’s kick out Biden and anoint Trump with olive oil and restore him to his rightful place as “King of USA”.
     
  13. spiritgide

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    The truth is that what we have in politics- we have because we tolerate it. IF we demanded honor as a condition of office- as the Constitution, the Oath of Office and Fiduciary Duty of office require-
    America would be a vastly better nation, with a thriving economy, and a legal system that was only used to preserve justice.

    Our core problem is that government lacks independent oversight and authority. It investigates itself with some frequency, and finds it has done nothing wrong. Yet we know power is inevitibly a corrupting influence and present; that constant control must be in place to prevent it becoming the nature of government- and that point is now quite close.

    The challenge for politicians seeking power- has come down to how well they can deceive the people, combined with how well they can manipulate the process to overcome the objection to what they can't hide.

    America's existence pivots on the coming election, and it's obvious we do not have any candidate on either side that is a shoo-in- but we also lack any possible candidates in the wings with enough name recognition to enter the race at this point. We are stuck with the choices we have, with the only variable the probability that Joes condition will progress to force his withdrawel.
    If one follows the sources of support- we see that the support for Trump comes from people, and they speak out, they appear at rallys. The support for Biden is more of a shadow- reported by media, espoused by
    a few outspokens. But we don't see anywhere near the kind of stand-up, speak-up support for Joe that we do for Trump. We are already in a state where we are tolerating broad abuse and distortion of law.
    If we can't put a stop to that, elections will become a cosmetic rather than a choice of leadership and direction.
     
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    Wrong.
    IF he was a self-obsessed train wreck- the left would have voted for him.
     
  15. Junkieturtle

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    No, self-obsessed men tend to be the right's picks. Lefties go for people who pretend to be tolerant, worldly, and diverse and pay lip service to this month's internet fads.
     
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    As usual, your thread title does not match the actual story.

    ‘The Gallup Poll said that Biden has the lowest popularity rating of any President who has served since 1952.

    It says absolutely nothing about whether Biden is a good President.

    Once again, a Trump disciple starts a troll thread with a false claim, that his “evidence”doesn’t support.
     
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    This is a troll thread.

    The Gallup poll that the OP cites has NOTHING to do with wether Biden is a good President at all.
     
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    Nobody makes themself successful without the ability to see the future and work with people. NOT all people- but the ones who can make a difference. Such people are typically praised by some- hated by others.
    A great coach for example knows that a great team requires great talent as well as great leadership. He knows that he is the navigator, steering the efforts of the team. This person has to have great confidence in themselves and their objectives..... and will be called self-obsessed. Those who just parade around thinking they are great because they have something they didn't build- are fakers. Those who can make it happen however, are the winners.

    If you need a critical surgery, and have a choice between a mediocre surgeon with a good bedside manner who tells you what you want to hear, and one who is the best in his field but tells you do follow his directions or get someone else..... who you gonna pick? The job of president is not winning your approval of his personality- it's the ability to do the best job for the nation. Too many people fail to understand that. They want to hear what they want to hear, get what they want, and get the omelette without breaking any eggs..... and the number of such people is growing. These people can't cut it, and will buy the promises of con men who tell them the government will do it for them.

    Great coaches are the highest paid people at Universities- because they know how to build winning teams. To do that job- that leader must have the authority to make the calls. Smart ones never take positions that compromise that. Everyone of them has a list of detractors who wanted to dictate selections or controls things, but didn't get their way. Goes with the territory. This is also true in many ways of successful business leaders. Everyone has enemies, who think they didn't get something.

    You put a weak man, a wienie in office and you will get what you deserve. That's what we have now. Not leadership, not strength, just excuses, abuses and wasted money- and more promises to fix the mess they are making.

    If 6 months, we will be choosing another coach, another leader. The choice will be strength or weakness... and all the consequences that will fall on us if we make the wrong choice again.
     
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    ‘That was a fairly complete list of reasons NOT to support Trump.

    The future? Trump never talks about it at all. His visions for his future involve installing flunkies and yes men in his new cabal, concentration camps, mass deportations, andretribution.

    ‘There are no ideas or goals for the future other than Trump’s ego and resentment.

    “A great coach for example knows that a great team requires great talent as well as great leadership”

    Micael COHEN, Crazy Uncle Rudy, Lev and Igor, Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller,
    George Papadopolous. Et Al………….

    “a great team requires great talent” (which in Trump world, is disposable)

    Great coaches do build ans lead great teams. Trump never did that in business, and his political career is littered with incompetence.

    Weak leader are the ones who stage pageants and strong man shows for television cameras, and degerade their positions by allowing themselves to be publicly humiliated by the likes of Kim and Putin.

    The choice will between strength and character) and weakness and self interest.
     
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    No you did.

    And you’ve manufactured a self serving fantasy to substitute for the reality that Trump is nothing more than a carnival barker with no leadership skills or competence whatsoever.
     
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    Seems to me that a good team leader is just that. He leads a team. No need for pomp and parading oneself, When all is said and done it's the team that count. A good leader need only be seen when the occasion requires it. To parade oneself is simply detracting from team work and is a sign of weakness of character.
     
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    ‘That’s what the right wing tribe does. It parrots takk radio disc jockeys, presenters on Fox, (or worse) and the legion of no nothing nobodies that permeate right wing social media.
     
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    The whole world watched him do it. I really don’t know why Trump nation continues to try and deny the obvious.
    We all saw it.

    Few of us are in any doubt that he would try again.

    His only vision for the future is retribution.
     
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    It's as if rightists that adore trump pretend that their mango hero didn't have his tongue up Xi's ass back then. LOL
     
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    That's just locker room talk, according to Trump loving rightists. LOL
     
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