Gallup Poll: Biden Worst President in Polling History

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whoever wins, whoever occupies the white house, around 60% of all Americans won’t want him there. Something else neither major party has thought about.
     
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    Who cares? The OP deliberately misrepresented what the poll said. He is trolling.
     
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    O don't see it, not that many takk radio that I know of! All my automobiles are fixec on Jack Radio, only station I listen to..
     
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    Newsmax, for real?

    And wait a day, there will be another poll, and another after that, and another……., wait long enough and look deep enough and anyone can find one that just about supports anything they want to believe
     
  5. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In a way, this election isn’t so much Trump vs. Biden. It’s pro-Trumpers vs. anti-Trumpers which each group is relatively even. Say around 40% each. Then there the latter 20% who are basically saying what the hell, we didn’t ask for this, we don’t want this rematch, we disliked and don’t want neither one. Yet, it’s this group, this 20% who will ultimately decide the rematch.


    Question 29 and 30 gives you the reason why voters who support each candidate are voting for them. Biden supporters, 41% for Biden, 51% against Trump. Trump supporters, 67% for Trump, 32% against Biden.


    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_HqmM53D.pdf
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One other thing, I’ve noticed is that both Trump and Biden supporters are giving a thousand and one reasons not to vote for the other guy. But neither side has given a single reason to vote for their guy, just against the other guy. If RCP 5-way race is accurate, you have that 20% in either the vote third party, undecided columns. Perhaps this 14% in the third-party column is taking to heart all the reason given by both major party candidates not to vote for the other guy. That they concluded neither one is worthy of their vote, if they do vote at all. When one doesn’t like nor want either major party candidate, it’s a heck of a lot easier to stay home than go vote third party against both.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee... do you think CNN would betray itself with real news?

    The story isn't Newsmax, it is the Gallup Poll, well known, respected and legitimate for 70 years.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sadly- the lowest common denominator rules the game. When either side turns to BS, it can't be left unchallenged. We have a situation where the arguments have far less to do with performance than personality- and that is pitiful.
     
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    no kidding, can you imagine their reaction if Biden had tweeted that
     
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    Trump was urging everyone to open back up. Biden nixd that and paid everyone to stay home and supported keeping schools closed.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not according to the rump guidelines he issued
     
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    Correct — it was just misrepresented by Newsmax and by extension, you.

    And you criticize Biden for moral failing. Fascinating
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ironic
     
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    Meh. Mostly increased political polarization. Well done faux news, other conservative propaganda networks, and foreign misinformation campaigns.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah- those bastards keep interfering with the left's propaganda plans. That's unfair to the corrupt.
     
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    The right and left do not share the same values in many respects, such as liking diversity. But the left is far more committed to the truth. Sometimes to their political detriment.
     
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    The left is not only near-sighted, but short on savvy. There is no reason to put people in positions because of color or any other category, any more than there is to keep them out. Gaining a postion should be determined by meritocracy, the ability to do the job, and secondly to do be a beneficial influence on the group objectives rather than one who creates disonance. Attitude and values are a huge issue in any job, and especially so in positions of authority. We have people demanding recognition, positions and compensations based on characteristics that have nothing to do the doing the job.

    And sadly- the only truth the left really recognizes is it's own delusion, totally believing in fairy tales- making it up as you go along, and ignoring tomorrow. They are lying to themselves- do believe it? Perhaps- but that does not make them right. Results tell us if we made good decisions or bad, and the more liberal and left our nation becomes- the worse things get.
     
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    Generally speaking meritocracy was never a widespread thing in people getting jobs/positions. So your perspective really represents a disconnect between goals and the real world. There is the initial question of basic qualifications, but at the interview table it becomes a matter of whether the interviewer likes the person and thinks they'll fit in. This is inherently subjective and does lead to bias. Even after the civil rights movement, this bias is a positive feedback loop that keeps minorities poorer. (overall, of course, there will always be exceptional persons who find a way). Attempts at encouraging diversity were meant to get around this bias to some extent.

    What is your criteria and proof for the bolded?
     
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    Yeah probably, hopefully some compromise will occur so we can move forward.
     
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    According to his many statements and speeches begining in March of 2020. And they were Fauci guidelines and whenever Trump disagreed the Dems/Left/MSM and I get even you attacked him for "not following the science" remember?
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There won’t be any compromise between parties. Not in today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divide, the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship. Especially among the forces of pro-Trump vs. anti-Trumpers. I fear we have passed the point of no return, no return to a previous political era where pragmatist and the moderates of both parties ruled. Where compromise and playing that old political game of give and take was commonplace. It really wasn’t that long ago. Perhaps 20 or so more years ago.

    One thing is for certain, Trump is all consuming be it either the devotion to him or the hatred of him. He’s changed the face of politics in this nation to a point to where they may be no recovery. To where policy and stances on issue means little, it has become all about that man Trump, for or against.
     
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    The science.

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    Then why are Asians the wealthiest RACE not just minority? I worked with minority engineers, purchasing managers, project managers, operations managers, financial managers, owners all my working career they all certainly made VERY good salaries and benefits just like whites. I have black neighbors of my same standard of living. There is every opportunity for blacks s anyone else in fact more so when it comes to education and hiring because race DOES play a factor with DEI mandates and quota's.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    It's a little early to evaluate, but of the last 45 presidents, Trump came in dead last......this
     
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    What matters this year is how the voters view both major party candidates. Not the experts, scholars or historians. What we have today is a basic tie between Trump and Biden when considering the MOE.

    Two candidate race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    Five way race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein

    Both are disliked by a majority of Americans - https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/2024

    29% of all Americans don’t think neither Biden nor Trump would make a good president - https://news.gallup.com/poll/642911...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    Biden’s overall job approval today is lower than Trump on this date in 2020. 40.2% approval for Biden, 44.9% approval for Trump.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

    Most historians will tell you it takes 20 years after a president leaves office to get a fairly accurate rating or ranking. It takes that long to see the long term effects of any president’s policies. We and they don’t have the foggiest idea what the long-term effects will be of Biden’s, Trump’s or even Obama’s policies yet. But come November, we’ll know exactly how all Americans view both Trump and Biden. One will win, the other will lose. It’s what the people think of these two in November 2024, not some expert or presidential scholar or historian. It’s we, the people.
     
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