Gay marriage is adult's pretending

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  1. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Pure fantasy. Show me the state ballot proposals in the works to do that, and explain how you think they'll be any more successful before the Court than the last bunch were.

    Presidents aren't dictators...yet. Nevermind that any president is going to have to answer to the oligarchs that financed their campaign, and they may not want the new president to pursue this.

    The Supreme Court has already ruled otherwise. Their opinion is worth more than yours in this matter.

    We aren't a democracy. We're a republic with democratic representation. Although of late, it's more like an oligarchy.

    When do I get to vote on your civil rights?
     
  2. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    I beg to differ. Obama 73% of American's were against the affordable healthcare act at the time he passed it anyway. Did I say 73% Dictator.

    The supreme court is owned by the administration, you might want to look how the judges got they're positions. Dicatator
     
  3. jrr777

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    Everybody in this administration is full of lies. I hear Obama's voice I know a lie is being told, same with Hillary, Kerry, Rice, White house spokesman (every one of them covering for Obama to fill their pocket's)
     
  4. Perriquine

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    So apparently we're now defining dictator as signing a law passed by Congress? That's ridiculous.

    Judges are nominated by the administration in power when vacancies occur, and confirmed by the Senate. Again, your example is ridiculous.

    The way you end each sentence with "Dictator" reminds me of a certain bit Lewis Black did about Glenn Beck. "Nazi Tourettes".
     
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    Words can mean whatever you want them to mean, like "love" or "justice". The meanings of word change with time, also. That's why there's usually an entymology section in wikipedia.

    I think the only thing you really have going for you with this argument is that marriage has been a certain way for a long time, but just because something was done a certain way for a long time doesn't make it right.
     
  6. yguy

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    I need demonstrate nothing. Flout God's laws and you will eventually find yourself experiencing a demonstration more convincing than any you could ever imagine.

    And you can pretend they are all you want. The countenancing of such a pretense in the "law" just makes it a lot easier. :)

    No they aren't.
     
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    Of course you don't. But making claims without demonstrations... well that's what the guy standing on the corner insisting elves control his brain is doing. Why would someone give any more credence to your claims than his?





     
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    Language is dynamicand definitions of words change all the time. Ever wonder why there are more than first editions to dictionaries?
     
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    Did they consultwith thesupreme overlordwhen they succeed with hobby lobby?
     
  10. yguy

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    Certainly there is a superficial similarity which superficial minds can be expected to focus on.

    For the same reason they'd give more credence to certain claims in the DoI than his: they're self-evidently true.
     
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    The guy on the corner says the same thing about his claims. Self evident means demonstrating itself. If you believe that evidence exists, you could differentiate between your claims and his by pointing to that demonstration.

    If you cannot, the assertion that your claim is self evidencing is not true.




     
  12. jrr777

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    Look in the holy bible about marriage. You make a promise to God. When getting married the man and wife become 1. Same sex marriage would be like marrying two dog's. You can say they're married you might even be able to get legal document's on them. But your still just pretending.
     
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    Did God inspire Jefferson to edit out the dogma of the Bible to create the Jefferson Bible? Jefferson was a Deist as were some other founding fathers who were more influenced by the Enlightenment Movement than anything else. Jefferson is why we have the separation of Church and State... was that inspired by God too?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible
     
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    The imbeciles reading will find this a very telling point indeed.

    No, it means this:

    [self-ev-i-duh nt, self-]

    Synonyms
    Examples
    Word Origin

    adjective
    1.
    evident in itself without proof or demonstration; axiomatic.​

    I trust you see the problem.
     
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    But I worship Cthulhu, can I still get married, even though I can't make a promise to God?
     
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    You underlined the wrong words. If something is evident in itself, no proof or demonstration is required. Because that something provides it's own demonstration. The evidence exists in itself.

    If you believe your claim is self evident, you can establish the truth of that assertion by pointing to the evidence within your claim. If you cannot, you are mistaken about that evidence existing within your claim. And you are mistaken about your claim being self evident.




     
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    Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Thanks for reminding me that for some it is a personal credo.
     
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    Polygamy consists of multiple marriages. Each and every one of them between a man and a woman. The history of polygamy doesn't even contradict his assertion.
     
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    Of course, Jefferson would disagree.

    "I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others."

    "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."

    And diest and Christian aren't mutually exclusive. One can be both.
     
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    Well said!!!
     
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    Which of course, supports his assertion

    The word "marriage" derives from Middle English mariage, which first appears in 1250–1300 CE. This in turn is derived from Old French marier (to marry) and ultimately Latin marītāre meaning to provide with a husband or wife and marītāri meaning to get married. The adjective marīt-us -a, -um meaning matrimonial or nuptial could also be used in the masculine form as a noun for "husband" and in the feminine form for "wife".[5] The related word "matrimony" derives from the Old French word matremoine, which appears around 1300 CE and ultimately derives from Latin mātrimōnium, which combines the two concepts: mater meaning "mother" and the suffix -monium signifying "action, state, or condition".[6]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage#Etymology
     
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    Your argument is about 10 years too and a Supreme Court decision too late.

    You can pretend whatever you want about marriage, but Bob and Bill's marriage is just as real as my wife and my marriage is.
     
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    Bob and Bill can play house all they want, just so long as they stay in the room.
     
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    Not really, the bible refers to marry, married and marriage. So like all else in this world today, political correctness has attempted to completely rewrite not only the language but this nations entire history. All I have to say to both, stick it where the sun don't shine.

    If you don't like the language, learn another. If you don't like the history, move elsewhere.
     
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    Let them get married all they want. Let the human race go extinct, let disease start spreading, from how they do what they do. Either way it's all pretend.
     

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