Gays in the Boy Scouts: US child militant organization should follow trend says chief

actually, it is nothing like it. what do you think gay children are going to exploit?

 

i agree that the bsa has the right to have whatever rules they want, but they need to forfeit the public funding.

my ONLY reservation about gays in the BSA is not something im 100% sure of, just the direction i am leaning and could easily change after more considerable thought on the subject. however, the BSA has a membership of young boys that are reaching or already at an age that starts to have sexual attraction and their hormones are becoming active. if a child is gay that simply means he has already figured out which gender he is attracted to sexually. if there are justifiable reasons to not let boys into the girl scouts and thus by extension go on camping trips with them, then there seems to be justifiable reason to examine this on a level that has nothing to do with political correctness or a modern society. im not really sure what the correct reaction to it should be, im just saying that there are deeper social concerns here than gay vs straight. the human side of me feels bigoted for saying it but the rational side of me feels the need to mention it. attack me at will i can take it.

 

No, I do not. The post you quote was a response to someone who made specific claims about gay people as a demographic whole. Claims which can't be backed up, and were obviously made not for the truth of the matter, but to conjure hatred.

I have no need or desire to be "adored".

People who, for no apparent reason, dismiss observations of anti-gay behavior and the valid criticism thereof get on my nerves.

Really? This is what he said:

Maybe you'd like to explain how a statement about GAY people isn't about their sexual orientation, since that is what being gay is - an attraction/orientation toward the same sex.

I don't ignore people for simply disagreeing with me. I do ignore them when they act like trolls, are pointlessly insulting, engage in repetition of debunked arguments, and are generally dishonest. You haven't reached the threshold yet.

 

What is the solution? Segregation? Complete banishment? The Boy Scouts has chosen the latter route. Meanwhile, the Girl Scouts don't kick out lesbians.

Why the difference between the two? It's easily summed as the influence of the LDS church on one group but not the other.

If we separate gay children, why not gay adults? If gay kids can't participate in the scouts, then I suppose gay adults shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military either. Whether it's camping or sharing shower facilities, it's basically the same argument - the supposition that a person who experiences same-sex attraction has no control over their behavior.

You don't get to tell me as a gay person that I shouldn't find the implications of this offensive, even if you didn't extend your argument to that degree.

 

i think i made it quite clear that i wasnt sure what the solution is and that the point of my post was to say that i think it needs to be debated by and decided by people much smarter than me when it comes to social issues. there was no supposition in my comment about gay people having less control of their desires than straight people. if you read what i said i was supposing that children of that age have less control of themselves than adults do. is it normal for straight boys of that age to go googoo over girls they are attracted to? yes, yes it is. so since gay behavior is being defended as normal i think its fair to assume gay boys go googoo over boys they are attracted to as well. agree? in this case, when camping whether it be church camp, scout camp or whatever, they boys dont sleep with the girls but in the scouts situation the boys DO sleep with the boys, at an age when reason takes a back seat to hormones. im not saying anything, im actually asking your opinion.... should this be discussed or ignored?

 

The solution, obviously, is for scouts not to share sleeping quarters, period. Nothing else seems workable to me. Then the question becomes: does the benefit provided by the solution justify the costs (material and social)?

 

You are aware, of course, that Baden Powell, the founder of the Boy Scouts, was gay, and had an eye for young boys. This is historical fact, not conjecture.

 

I have heard this several times, but I have never seen any documented evidence. If he was gay, the book he wrote Scouting for boys takes on a completely different meaning. Do you have any links alluding to his sexuality - I'm just curious.

 

They were homosexuals first, Catholics second.The homosexual community and the Catholic Church should hold their collective heads in shame for the perversions they committed on innocent children (mainly boys).The RC continues to deny any responsibilty for these grossly despicable actions,whilst the homosexual communuity continues to encourage such outrageous behaviour.

 

we may be at the top of the food chain, but we are still mammals

 

No they were pedophiles.

A homosexual is an adult having sex with another adult of the same sex.

If you can't tell the difference between two consenting adults having sex and an adult raping a child...I suggest you stay away from children.

 

No they were pedophiles.

A homosexual is an adult having sex with another adult of the same sex.

If you can't tell the difference between two consenting adults having sex and an adult raping a child...I suggest you stay away from children.

 

You can try and be as pedantic as you like so you can can continue to make excuses for their grossly disgusting behaviour.

These horrific crimes on under age boys were committed, by a country mile, by homosexual paedophiles. What a disgusting and horrible combination!

 

a homosexual pedophile is equally as bad as the heterosexual pedophile, in fact you can just classify them both as pedophiles, because that is what they are

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Care to show us ANY published definition of homosexuality,, that limits it to adults, used for any other purpose than arguing that a pedophile isnt a homosexual

 

So, based on the news report that came out today on this:

An adult man showing pornography to minors and sleeping naked with them equals "poor judgment", while merely being gay equals something so horrible that we have to have a complete ban on gay scout members.