Genitals and Gender

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by trumptman, Jul 15, 2023.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I don't condone attacking education unless they're grooming. I'm specifically referring to grooming
    Deny reality all you want. The fact that people are seriously defending giving castration drugs AKA puberty blockers to children proves you wrong.

    You have to groom a child into thinking that they're really the opposite sex that they are and then you treat them into taking sterilization drugs.

    Also the education system needs to be attacked it is utterly failing only because teachers are preoccupied with sexually abusing children.

    Seriously it's making Catholic priests rethink their career choice
     
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  2. WillReadmore

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    Grooming is one of the justifications used for attacking education.

    And, your comments on sexual abuse of children is not supportable.

    Catholics are easy to point at, but protestant churches aren't free of this problem.
     
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    well if educators are grooming children they should be attacked and possibly in prison.
    incorrect. Lying to a child and telling them they can be a boy when they were born a girl and then proceeding to castrate you delayed and sterilize them is absolutely abusive.
    Nope schools are.
     
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    Your scenarios are ridiculous.

    And, they are not a rational excuse for assaulting education.
     
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    Opinion noted. FYI I don't care about appearing ridiculous to you. If you support castration of children I am delighted by that fact. I don't want to appear reasonable to anybody with that philosophy.
    Except when they are grooming children to believe absurd things and harming them. Then it's our duty to assault them.

    Being an educator isn't a free pass to victimize the vulnerable.
     
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    Please cite ANYTHING you have claimed in any post on this thread today.
     
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    So you can pretend it isn't really happening? I'm not interested in helping you with your existential crisis.

    States don't make laws against castration of children if there isn't an attempt to castrate children.

    You can pretend in your bigoted homophobia that this is part of being LGBT but that's just an effort to shield this extremely ****ed up ideology from criticism.

    I don't need you to agree with me. I already know better than you.
     
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    You are making a claim that something is happening.

    PROVE IT.
     
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    Why?
     
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    No reason - other than that you might want someone somewhere to believe a word you say.
     
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    The truth is not interested in converting you.

    You're weird concepts of gender ideology are absurd to the extreme and they will be looked back on as barbaric.

    So you and this someone that believes in your weird disgusting human sacrifice crap will be looked at much like the way we look at human sacrifice in antiquity now.
     
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    For the most part, no one but opponents are making this claim. They already know that the sex itself can't change. There is no real claim that, outside of word conflation from habit, that they are changing their sex. Altering the body is currently the only avenue that they have for the alleviation of the GD they possess, assuming that they even need to go that far. Transitioning starts at presentation and then works up from here. But so far no other procedure has provided that alleviation of the GD without causing more damage than it fixes.

    If that is all you are reducing humans to, then it's no wonder you are having a problem with this. For many such people, this is a small price to pay to be rid of or significantly reduce the dysphoria.
     
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    No, what the transgender community is reducing humans to is a innie or an outie. I’m the one thinking much more in depth than they are.
     
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    or they are thinking spiritual, feminine soul vs masculine soul, do you believe in souls?

    if your soul moved right now into the other genders body, would you be that gender or be your gender in another genders body
     
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    You have that backwards. Sexuality goes way deeper than physical manifestations.

    Let's remember that humans have brains and a number of organs that contribute to the whole. Being critical of how these combine to form someone's sexuality is as ridiculous as complaining about their skin color.
     
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    no he has it correct.

    Why is it people that identify as trans refer to sexual orientation and genital preference?

    Reducing sexual orientation to genital preference is homophobic.
     
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    There are people whose sexuality doesn't match their physical features. They may choose to resolve that in any of a variety of ways.

    That's been explained over and over and over again.

    Why are conservatives so upset with this aspect of nature that they believe they have a right to assault people, libraries, schools etc.?
     
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    that sentence doesn't make sense what does it mean for sexuality to match physical features?
    as long as that resolution doesn't demand me tell your life for you that's fine.
    telling me the same bullshit over and over again doesn't magically make it not bullshit. Research the fallacy argumentum ad nauseam.
    Are you sure you want to connect anti grooming efforts with conservatives that inevitably means that anyone else is for grooming?

    What you should do if you really cared about any of this is you should condemn grooming not excuse it.

    I would ask on a personal level why do you hate the LGBT so much that you want to make us into people who groom children why do you want to connect that to us? We fought the Bible beaters off and now you're doing it.
     
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    I don't accept what you are claiming here.

    And, I certainly do not accept it as a justification for assaulting education, libraries, healthcare, LGBTQ communities and other such activities that Republicans are attempting.
     
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    Don't accept it than. Your denial your problem
    You are assaulting the lgbt with your attempt to connect child grooming to them. We fought for decades to stop you from doing that.

    Just go join the westburogh Baptist Church already.
     
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    SInce transitioning does not always or even mostly, despite opponents' claims otherwise, depend on bottom surgery, that is exaggeration at best.
     
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    Not an exaggeration at all. People aren’t arguing the functionality of said innie or outie they are merely arguing the presence of an innie or outie. They are the ones reducing what something is to simple looks rather than function. It’s not an exaggeration at all. It’s a sad fact
     
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    But given the high number of transgenders whose transition does not involve changing the "innie or outie", and reduce or alleviate their GD by such, with said "innie or outie" still present, it is far from shown that this issue is reduced to one of "simple looks".
     
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    What is a transgender @Maquiscat ? Is there a science to any of it? It’s based on emotion and looks…. Literally all of it. None of it has a scientific function. There is absolutely no scientific chromosome package, hormone, or physical trait that links any one person to being transgender. It’s all based on the feelings of an individual and looks. Absolutely no function is taken into consideration at all. Zero… notta…. And zilch!!!
     
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    Function?

    LGBTQ exists and that's not going to be changed.

    You aren't really interested in trying to make peoples lives miserable, are you?
     

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