George found not guilty .

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  1. Zxereus

    Zxereus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He may have been profiled and followed because he was black, but I think it's likely he was shot because a fight ensued and Zimmerman got in over his head and felt his life was in danger and ended up shooting him.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

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    As I said all along, if the physical evidence showed Martin was on top of Zimmerman holding him down from escaping and was hitting him, Z'd be acquitted. That's what the physical evidence showed and Zimmerman was acquitted.
     
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    I am happy the jury took their time, looked at the facts and law in this case to come up with the correct verdict. Justice for George Zimmerman!
     
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    What a great sight. This family did not deserve what they have been put thru. [​IMG]
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    Martin had 2 options if he was offended by Zimmerman following him. 1) Tell his Dad and file a complaint and lawsuit against the HOA OR: 2) Jump the guy and beat him down, committing a crime in the process. I blame his parents for his death, they simply never taught him right from wrong.
     
  6. doombug

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    Spot on! Until the problem of these violent teens is discussed this problem will never be solved. No one can expect a problem to go away by ignoring it.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd love to know what kind of music Martin listened to. I'd bet it wasn't Beethoven.
     
  8. Hummingbird

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    Oh good gawd........ this post is way beyond stupid, but reading it reminded me of some good news I heard today. This senator is passing a bill protecting the kids from the hysterical, paranoid, crazy-ass liberal teachers & school administrators who are suspending them for their childish antics .... like chewing a pop-tart into a scary, threatening "gun", etc etc...... doesn't that make you happy?
     
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    Its comforting to know the murderer Zimmerman will have his life ruined and be hated by everyone else.
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    The NRA will give him a job as a spokesman and lecturer.
     
  11. Zxereus

    Zxereus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really sound like a little kid.
     
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    And you're an extremist.
     
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    For no good reason. Good (*)(*)(*)(*)ing riddance. It's finally over. I trust the jury's verdict given the current state of US law, although I do find it a bit bizarre that people generally do not have the burden of proof when claiming self-defense. Now can we please just get off this stupid, racist topic?
     
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    While not following every minute of the case I believe the jury reached the only verdict it could. The prosecution did a poor job of presenting a case that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman violated the law. We must remember one thing though about the US Criminal Justice System,

    Not Guilty =/= Innocent
     
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    They could have been, what is your point?
     
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    Do those here that think 'justice was served' in the GZ case also think justice was served in the OJ case? I didn't think so. I wonder why. Different 'tone' and 'hue'?
     
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    Actually yes. The prosecution utterly failed to prove its case then as well. The result was the right one then and the right one now.
     
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    Forcing a defendant to prove self defense is effectively forcing them to prove their own innocence. Doing so runs contrary to the principle of innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
     
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    Yes, incompetent prosecution occurred in both the OJ Simpson and Zimmerman case and our criminal justice system is based upon the criteria that it's better to allow 10 people that committed a crime to go free than to convict an innocent person.

    As I've often pointed out "Not Guilty =/= Innocent" and has never indicated that. Those that believe Zimmerman is innocent of any criminal act cannot base that opinion upon the not guilty verdict of the jury because they did not return a verdict of innocent (no jury does).
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Zimmerman's attorney (Mark O'Mara) had no obligation to prove self-defense by Zimmerman and did not establish that in the trial.
     
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    If it is not in evidence we are not allowed to use it.

    We could not make a decision on Trayvon Martin being the aggressor if it had not been for the tainted CNN hear witness that said the manly voice was the aggressor in the argument before the fight and the “boy” was the one that yelped in pain and being beat up before the gunshot, meaning that:

    1) The aggressor was not the one yelping in pain.

    2) The only one with injuries to yelp for was Zimmerman.

    One plus two equals Zimmerman Not Guilty of being the aggressor.

    In the eighth grade I was bass-baritone in the choir and at seventeen could do a killer “you’re and evil one Mr. Grinch…” I have never heard Trayvon speak, so it was not in evidence for me. I heard Zimmerman speak when the judge caught him in her headlights asking over multiple objections if he was going to testify, and I would never advise him to go into law enforcement or try to imitate Boris Karloff.

    If we were allowed to do what you just did we could say that the reason Trayvon Martin did not call the police is because he was casing the joint, and saw an unarmed creepy ass Cracker to beat up with his fight club thug skills to vent his rage at being caught selling dope by the “man.”
     
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    You guys really can't help yourselves, can you? What a joke. The actual words President Obama used were:
    He did not say anything about George Zimmerman at all - what on earth do you want him to apologize to him for? His comments were made more than three weeks after the shooting, but it was still another two weeks before Zimmy was even arrested and charged with anything. There was no court deciding anything when the President spoke and very few facts known about the case at all, only a lot of speculation. What was known was that a "white" guy had shot a "black" teenager dead on property that didn't belong to either of them, and that the "white" guy had been let off without an investigation. If you don't see that as a possible race crime, then you are living in a dream world.

    For those of us who still have a reasonable grip on reality, the President's comments on this case are well taken: that race is still a determining factor in people's perceptions and assumptions.
     
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    Sorry, but you lied and got this backwards:

    "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon... Obviously, this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through, and when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids, and I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together -- federal, state and local -- to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened." --President Obama, March 23, 2013

    “But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.”
    http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/23/president-obama-statement-on-trayvon-martin-case/

    If he had left that out there would be no problem.

    Why did you lie? Are you a pathological liar like Zimmerman has been accused of being?
     
  24. royofan

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    It seems it was well established in the minds of the 6 female jurors though.
     
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    Except we have said he was innocent from very early on. As soon as the evidence became clear. Note that NO NEW EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED AT TRIAL, that was not already known a year ago.

    We were not clouded by liberal racism or Liberal ignorance.

    We said he was innocent last year. The evidence indicated such then, and the verdict confirms such today.
     
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