George Zimmerman sues NBC over Trayvon Martin reports part 2

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  1. Margot

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    And spoil Robert's fun?

    GZ loves the media.. He just couldn't wait to get on Hannity and talk about "the gun" and God's plan.


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    New record folks! 11 posts and you're gone to my great 'ignore list' in the sky.
     
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    Uh Oh... George has done it again.. made liar out of himself over the cell phone.
     
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    Cowards need the ignore function.
     
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    I thought you said once that you loved cats and had several.
     
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    Margot, is this coming from an interview or a news story?
     
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    ...or is it coming from Leatherman's blog....LOL!
     
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    In an interview with Serino, GZ says he goes for his phone at his waist.. Now there's this song and dance about the phone being in a small zippered pocket on the front of his jacket.

    Would you walk up on Trayvon and then pull out your cell to call 911 as GZ claims.

    Watch this quick wrong pocket video.


    [video=youtube;e_TJDGmA_Rg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_TJDGmA_Rg&feature=player_embedded [/video]
     
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    No.. Its not from Leatherman.. Its a clip of one of the Serino-GZ interviews.
     
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    I am assuming this was after he called 911/NEN when he saw TM first?
     
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    Except there is no proof George "walked up on" Druggie Trayvon. George said he was walking back to his truck when Delinquent Trayvon approached him and the State has said it has nothing to disprove his account. Nice try but epic fail.
     
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    Actually, there is proof. That proof is the distance from his truck to the incident where GZ shot TM. That distance is 50 feet, approximately, away from his truck and away from where GZ lived.
     
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    Doombug.. George is a proven liar.. That was demonstrated in court.

    I don't think Trayvon knocked him off his feet either.. Not with a punch to the nose.. GZ is built like a fireplug.. In fact, I would go so far as to say that is the ONLY punch GZ sustained from Trayvon.

    It didn't happen the way GZ said it did. If the grass was wet and we know it was raining off and .. they could have been pushing to each other and slipped.
     
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    There is still a question as to WHERE the truck was parked. How could he see the clubhouse and mail station and the Cut thru at the same time.. Remember he got out of his truck when he says, "(*)(*)(*)(*), he's running".. Did he have time to drive after TM and make a U turn?
     
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    Lets review the sequence of events.
    1. GZ went out on "patrol" and happen to see TM at the local convenience store.
    2. TM then called NEN to report a "suspicious person."
    3. TM saw GZ and asked why he was following him?
    4. TM left after a few words with GZ.
    5. GZ then got out of his truck and followed TM.
    6. TM and GZ clash where the gunshot occurred.

    In that sequence of events, why did GZ get out of his truck and follow TM? That question has not been completely answered and will be in the SYG hearing. This alone will cause the SYG hearing to fail because GZ followed TM and provoked such an incident. In addition, GZ never identified himself as a neighborhood watch, which adds to his false conclusions of his testimony.
     
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    Lets review the sequence of events.
    1. GZ went out on "patrol" and happen to see TM at the local convenience store.
    2. TM then called NEN to report a "suspicious person."
    3. TM saw GZ and asked why he was following him?
    4. TM left after a few words with GZ.
    5. GZ then got out of his truck and followed TM.
    6. TM and GZ clash where the gunshot occurred.

    In that sequence of events, why did GZ get out of his truck and follow TM? That question has not been completely answered and will be in the SYG hearing. This alone will cause the SYG hearing to fail because GZ followed TM and provoked such an incident. In addition, GZ never identified himself as a neighborhood watch, which adds to his false conclusions of his testimony.
     
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    George didn't leave the complex...

    Trayvon came in thru the huge gap in the fence next to Taaffe's house.. All the foot traffic took that shortcut.

    George would have driven up behind TM.

    Trayvon gets out of the rain at the clubhouse.

    GZ stops, watches him and calls NEN.

    Trayvon is standing in a lighted area..

    He walked towards GZ truck because that is the most direct route home.
     
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    Once again, the question was how do you get them by placing them on the sides of someone's head and bashing the back of that head onto a concrete sidewalk?

    No it can't, quote from the law where it says you have to wait for the serious injury or death to occur before you can defend yourself. Having your head repeatedly bashed into concrete is reasonable fear of serious bodily injury. You DO know the law says serious bodily injury OR death.


    If your head is being bashed into a concrete sidewalk, if the person assaulting you is reaching for a gun.

    The question is what reasonable fear of serious bodily injury or death did Martin experienced that justified his assault on Zimmerman.

    The laws does not require a weapon, if you are chocking me and will not stop then I can use deadly force to stop you.


    There is no question as to why Zimmerman was, as he was asked to do, observing where Martin ran off to so he could tell the dispatcher.

    There is absolutely NOTHING Illegal about watching someone. And we know for a fact that Martin had gone back to the apartment he was staying at and had lost sight of Zimmerman. The incident was over at that point. It was Martin who re-instigated it.


    No it can't but a moot point anyway.

    There is plenty of evidence including the testimony of Dee Dee that it was Martin who verbally confronted Zimmerman, that is was Martin who rather than going inside the apartment and watching TV went back and approached Zimmerman.

    A broken nose and lacerations to the back of the skull are not necessarily minor and a moot point, you don't have to wait until the are major in order to defend yourself. Will you get off that nonsense once and for all?

    So what even if he had the chance?


    His accounts have been consistent enough.


    It is based on the facts, and the burden is on the prosecution and those who claim Zimmerman is guilty to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was NOT self defense. You have failed miserably.

    This is not going to be a SYG defense so stop posting specious statements. This will be a simple self-defense.

    He will be making a simple self-defense claim. Now prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was not self-defense. That means not your made up diagnosis of his injuries and fallacious interpretations of the law.
     
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    Walking is not a suspicious activity...................
     
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    Totally fallacious statements, but then when the evidence proves you wrong that is all you have left.

    Prove Zimmerman saw Martin at the convenience store.
     
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    therje is no evidence that TM placed his hands on GZ and bashed them. If there were, GZ would have far more severe injuries than have been reported by GZ doctor or by the EMT.

    This is where you really do not know the law. For someone to claim SYG, one has to show cause why they believed to "prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself " Showing cause to that claim is one of the foundations of making or breaking a SYG claim. This will then go into the forensic evidence of both GZ and TM. The physical injures were minor, thus not showing cause for making such a sclaim. .


    Again, it goes to cause. See point above.



    There is a difference between observing and following. I can observe you without following you.


    Never said it was illegal, but again, goes to the question why GZ did not stay in his truck. If GZ answers on the stand, his testimony will convict him.


    There is no evidence whatsoever. YOu are now making things up to suit your own political blindness.


    Only in about 5% or less of the cases Bluesbuy. I would not be playing the odds on that one if I were you.



    Identifying himself would have smoothed the situation and given GZ more creditability. The fact that he did not speaks volumes against him.




    His accounts have been consistent to what the media reported and what GZ told the police. That deos not mean that what was reported by both GZ and the media prove guilt or innocence.



    Those facts are determined by the judge and/or jury, not by you. My opinion is my opinion just as your opinion is your opinion.

    This is a stand your ground defense. Otherwise, O'Mara would not be filing a motion for immunity and dismissal. And if it was a simple fact of self defense, he would have pleaded guilty by now.


    See point above. But then again, you are the type of bloat that would argue if someone gave you a paper cut and you felt your life was in danger, you had every right to shoot that person. God help those around you, including your own family members if you decide to go that route.
     
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    Just as I posted: There is no proof. Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    Still offering no real proof I see. Instead you resort to "should or could have" nonsense. How about some concrete proof to back up your assertions or just be quiet.
     
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    1. Clubhouse
    2. Mail Shed
    3. The "T"
    4. Trayvon's Body (approx)
    5. Brandy Green's house where Trayvon was staying w/his father.
    6. Emmanuel Burgess
    7. George Zimmerman
    8. Frank Taaffe's place near cut through.
    9 Front Gate
    10 Rear Gate
     

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