Germany: Right-wing protesters rally against new mosque in Monchengladbach

Stop ... you make ridiculous claims and tell things and deliver not a spark of evidence, but then I have to proof my refuting of your words suddenly? Are you serious? No unusual!

 

People should try this;

https://www.theguardian.com/society...w-well-do-you-know-your-country-take-our-quiz

It is amazing how uninformed people are about their own countries let alone others. Danes for example think that 15% of the population is Muslim. Reality is 4%. The same issue in every country.
And this is happening without Breitbart and Fox News and only through each countries own tabloids and extreme focus on Muslims.

 

Perhaps it feels like 15% and that is what they're responding to. The number is closer to 5%, perhaps more, but when a high number of these people are violent and want Sharia law imposed (40%) then there are certain to be problems. Of course these problems and the increase in crime rates as a result of the arrival of Muslim immigrants are not exclusive to Denmark but are commonplace throughout Western Europe.

 

They are responding incorrectly because of the extreme focus on Muslims everywhere. It is quite simple.

It is the same tactic tabloids and online trash sites use. They overly focus on the subjects they want to push making people think it is worse than reality.
The US tops the list for being misinformed.

 

Perhaps this focus is a consequence of Islamic terrorists and the increasing crime rates being committed by Muslims throughout western Europe. Murder innocent people out for a quiet meal, attending a concert, or using public transportation and the media is likely to take notice. Would you prefer all of this remain a secret?

In fact if you if you're looking for seriously misinformed people simply ask a Muslim a question about democracy, human rights, education, international politics, law, economics or, in your case, the United States.

 

There has not been an increase in crime rate in any country I know of. Indeed there no indication that Muslims are particularly more violent or criminal than others.
Terrorism is a minuscule threat and much lower than in previous decades.

Clearly you get you news from trash sources that makes you believe otherwise.

 

Which media would you prefer I use?

 

Personally I use at least two print sources in whatever country I find myself in. Center left and center right. I prefer outlets that are not owned by a conglomerate and which has been around for the longest.
Are you in the US?

 

You forgot gatestoneinstitute.
Thanks for that link, very interesting!!
Tried the quiz right away and (sorry, don't want to sound bigheaded) came out on top.
Will try other countries later. Let's see how misinformed I am.

I can only speak for Germany and, believe it or not, there hasn't been an increase in crime rates.
I've read every study I could find, official and reliable IMO, and immigrants are not more criminal than ethnic Germans.
I could give you links, but they would be in German, of course.

 

Which news sources do you find the most reliable? Clearly I don't want to get my news from trash sources. Which news media do you recommend in order that I might be as well informed as you?

 

Yepp. Spot on.

 

Ah, but feeling and fact are two different things. I know, both words begin with "f", but the adults in the room realize that those two words do not, I repeat, do not mean the same thing. Kind of like the difference between perception and intent. But that's easier since both words don't start with the same letter, nööö?

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To the OP article and video itself: the claim that the media, at least the German media, would focus only on 4-5 neonazis on the periphery is just plain old hooey. In fact, the German media does excellent work at separating between extreme-rightists and normal people who are simply protesting.

 

That's funny, I spent 10 - 11 months in the Islamic Mid East as an obvious America and experienced only kindness, generosity, warm hospitality & curiosity while in the company of the "Evil Muslims" you seem to hate so much but know so little about.

What was your experience in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, S.E. Turkey etc.?

 

Yes, that's quite true which is why i used the word "feels" and not "intent". Is English not your first language?

And how does the media differentiate between the two? Do they wear some sort of identification?

 

Your journey took place in the seventies, as you have related in earlier posts. That was way before 9/11, before the first Iraq war and before the Americans engaged in gruesome tortures.
Also, you went there as a tourist and had manners! Since then much water has run downhill.

 

What you so spectacularly fail to realise is that there are more to come - hundreds of thousands more. Okay, so you 'survived WW I, the Great Depression, and WW II', but apparently you don't mind if you have to survive even more misery and deprivation, plus the loss of your culture t'boot. Are you masochists or something?

 

They are saying: "Kein IS Terror Fuer Europa" = No IS Terror for Europe.
Can you blame them?

How do you recognize Nazis in the video? I'm happy to see no hooligans, all serious looking adult Germans. They are truly concerned about their homeland, identity and peace.
But, if they haul in millions of foreigners, then of course they will also have thousands of foreign churches .
It looks very much like this will be the new norm. They will get used to it, I'm sure.

 

"WE?"

 

As a matter of fact, although I am fluent in a number of languages, English is indeed my first language. Yours? I was not sure.....

The media differentiates based on the SELF identification of individuals, in order to avoid false bias. You know, like adults do. Hope that information was helpful. And BTW, the presentation of any form of NAZI paraphenalia outside of classroom teaching exhibits or historical reference in dokus or such is not permitted according to §130 and §131 of the German national code. Just saying. So, a person who is that extreme will not only be easily caught by the German media, he (or she) is also very likely breaking the law.

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Actually, if you are really interested in being honest, you know, as adults should, then you must admit that from this photo barely a face can be recognized, let along facial expressions or forms of clothing. What we see is a human-shield-barrier of police blocking the way. So, making any kind of conclusions without having been there in person would be kind of ridiculous, nöööö?

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And just for public disclosure, I am very, very familiar with the Krefeld-Mönchengladbach area. VERY.

 

So, I, as an honest adult, gather that you either live in Moenchengladbach, or you were born there and are VERY frequently going back to check things out, especially the Nazis. Fairly correct?

Unlike you, who didn't bother to play the video, but rather was satisfied just looking at the front of it, I am really honest when I say that I saw lots of normal people with faces and clothing marching or standing around. I didn't detect any Nazi emblems, either.

Count yourself lucky, Mr. Hengst, that I even bothered to respond to your purely accusative post, which is a blatant violation of Rules #2, 3 and 4. But because it is the Christmas Season, the season of love and goodwill, I will refrain from alerting the mods.

Take care and have a good day!
Jazz

 

You really have not seen or heard of 'the evils of Islam'? Why not quote me directly rather than creating your own narrative and false quotes. Posters like yourself make debating far more tiresome than it should be.

Here are some incidents re the evils of Islam, and you may be shocked that these events actually occurred. Read it at your own discretion..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Mecca_girls'_school_fire

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/world/europe/beslan-school-siege-fast-facts/

Here's a more comprehensive list if you're genuinely interested. Are you okay with any of this or do you think none of it is "Evil"?

 

If you are not sure of the word you can use an online dictionary.

So they rely on the good will Nazis to self identify even though they may get fined? That's quite a system.

I never recognized anyone nor was I interested in any of them so have no idea why this is important to you.

Thanks for sharing that.

 

I simply wanted to know on what you based your opinions of Islam and the nature of its adherents, thats all. If you are using Zionist dominated sources like Wikipedia [1] and major Western / U.S. "news" media[2], [3], [4] of course you will read only negative things about Islam & Muslims & form your opinions on Zionist influenced sources like Wikipedia & CNN [4].

After learning the hard way (combat Military service in Laos) that the U.S. media was little better than State run propaganda, I decided to go to the Mid East and see for myself how malevolent Muslims really were.

After 10 - 11 months of experiencing only kindness, curiosity & generous hospitality at the hands of my many Muslim hosts
while hitch-hiking, walking, riding camel back etc throughout Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon etc. I realized, again, how skewed our Zionist dominated "news" & entertainment media really was.

Briefly put, I think you would be able to form more accurate opinions of the Islamic world & Muslims in general if you used more balanced sources than the Zionist influenced sources you cited.





[1] “Zionist Control of WikiPedia”
http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/at...d=429:zionist-control-of-wikipedia&Itemid=118


[2] “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion...erage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.Vhb3Zc02XUR



[3] “DECLASSIFIED SENATE INVESTIGATION FILES REVEAL CLANDESTINE, ISRAELI PR CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA”
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...israeli-pr-campaign-in-america-100976089.html


[4] “Jim Clancy Fired by CNN for Mentioning the Word Hasbara (Israeli-Zionist Propaganda), Following Rick Sanchez and Octavia Nasr”
http://www.ccun.org/News/2015/Janua...anchez and Octavia Nasr, January 26, 2015.htm
EXCERPT “It's important to note that Jim Clancy was not a hero. Like Rick Sanchez and Octavia Nasr before him, he worked for the CNN Israeli-Zionist propaganda (hasbara) machine for 34 years."CONTINUED

 

How did this become all about Israel??? You feel that sending schoolgirls into a burning building is about Israel? Or murdering children in a kindergarten is all abut Israel? There is a mountain of ignorance here.

This is a form of insanity and is more related to Islamism than reality.