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    Fewer tornadoes.
    Inconvenient: NOAA data shows U.S. Tornadoes on the decline since 1970
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    number of reported weaker tornadoes, and in recent years EF-0 tornadoes have become more prevelant ... total number of reported tornadoes . In addition, even today many smaller tornadoes still may go undocumented
     
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    Flooding normal.
    Climate at a Glance: Floods
    Occasional heavy precipitation events and floods have always occurred and always will. The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports low confidence in any climate change impact on floods, and even acknowledges that climate change is as likely to have reduced flooding frequency and severity as it has been to make them more common.

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    As Lincoln noted, you can fool some of the people all the time.
    Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest was Driven by Climate Change

    A rare heat wave, but cannot be attributed to climate change

    This concurrence of a number of factors coming together at one place and time was why the extreme heat occurred, with a very small assist from global warming, which added a few degrees to an already extreme event.
    It is important to note that the atmosphere comes up sixes regularly, but not necessarily in the same place. The atmosphere is churning with all kinds of variability inherent in the physics of the atmosphere (also called natural variability).
     
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    Here in Texas, not sure we'll notice a difference between 99 degrees and 99.2 degrees. It's just hot.
     
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    Intentional or not, we often find AGW advocates attempting to make their case via misattribution. That has been the case with recent NW heat.
    Miscommunication in Recent Climate Attribution Studies
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    Many of the climate attribution studies are resulting in headlines that are deceptive and result in people coming to incorrect conclusions about the relative roles of global warming and natural…
    "Whether one calls it an artful statistical sleight of hand or poor scientific communication, several non-peer-reviewed climate attribution reports have provided misleading information that poorly informs society. . . . "

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    I don't think Republicans will care if it's a private company with investors. The companies will need revenues, of course, and the biggest polluters - like China - should also pitch in.

    I wonder if those filters could be miniaturized and put on cars or industrial CO2-emitting equipment.
     
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    They need to be made bigger, and we need a lot more of them. And obviously we need to emit less carbon.
     
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    As usual, the media makes wild extremes seem real and ignores reality. The full post can be seen here.
    Sea Level Model Fail

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    From a post by Arnout Jaspers at clintel.org. In 2016, a headline grabbing study said that the Antarctic ice sheet is much more unstable than [previously] estimated. As a consequence,…
     
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    The longer this goes on, the clearer it becomes that there's no climate signal.
    Alarmists Scaremongering, Ignore Germany’s Long History Of Massive Flooding
    By P Gosselin on 23. July 2021

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    CO2 scaremongering and the truth about German floods
    By Fred F. Mueller

    Last week we saw flood disasters in various areas of Germany and other European countries, especially in the area of the Ahr River, which have not only caused billions in damage, but tragically also claimed up to more than 200 lives. Considering that there had been precise warnings days before, it is hard to understand why the warnings issued by scientists at the European Flood Awareness System (EFAS) were hardly listened to.

    Initially, the German DWD weather services also the public media warned of “heavy rain” and were late in issuing (if at all) warnings of rapidly rising floods. As a result, people were caught unprepared in many cases and couldn’t save even the most basic necessities. In addition to the numerous fatalities, thousands of residents have seen their livelihoods destroyed. . . .
     
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    Yawn.

    We’re Not Gonna Drown! Analyses Show COASTAL SEA LEVEL RISE Is Only 1.69 mm Per Year!

    By P Gosselin on 23. March 2021

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    UPDATE: Sea level rise near the coasts where people actually live is found to be 1.69 mm/yr. But when crunching the data for the entire ocean, as Willis Eschenbach has shown, a figure of just 1.52 mm/year is computed.

    Hot shot data analyst Zoe Phin at her site examines sea level rise.

    There she notes, “Climate alarmists are worried that the sea level is rising too fast and flooding is coming soon. You can find many data images like this on the net:”

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    Lately the sea level has been rising 3.2 mm/year and some scientists say the rise is accelerating.

    At her blog, Zoe points out that this is the rate measured by satellite for the entire ocean. She says what’s really important is the rate of rise along the coasts where it really matters for humans. . . .
     
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    The evidence for extravagant claims isn't there.
    Pielke Jr. On Recent Climate Attribution Claims
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    I can think of no other area of research where the relaxing of rigor and standards has been encouraged by researchers in order to generate claims more friendly to headlines,…

    Originally tweeted by Roger Pielke Jr. (@RogerPielkeJr) on July 21, 2021.

    There is no doubt that attribution claims have run far out ahead of detection of trends

    “Since 1951, the number of heavy rainfall days per year for the whole of Germany has hardly changed, almost independently of their definition”
    https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/12/7/1950/html

    HT @AndrewSiffert

    Similarly for Zhengzhou

    https://doi.org/10.1002/joc.5107 . . .
     
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    Like racism, the demand for global warming has outstripped the supply. So they have to invent global warming effects where they don't exist.
     
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    Had you been alive during the last Inter-Glacial Period, you'd see the same things.

    On top of that, had you been alive during the last Inter-Glacial Period, the sea levels would be 4 meters to 13 meters higher than present.

    And the Greenland Ice Sheet would have melted away, which is why sea levels were 4 meters to 13 meters higher than present.

    And you would have seen higher temperatures, which is why the Greenland Ice Sheet melted and sea levels were 4 meters to 13 meters higher than present.

    Science Alert! Let's watch Liberals runaway, flounce and deflect when faced with Science:

    Palaeo data suggest that Greenland must have been largely ice free during Marine Isotope Stage 11 (MIS-11). The globally averaged MIS-11 sea level is estimated to have reached between 6–13 m above that of today.

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    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms16008

    “Even though the warm Eemian period was a period when the oceans were four to eight meters higher than today, the ice sheet in northwest Greenland was only a few hundred meters lower than the current level, which indicates that the contribution from the Greenland ice sheet was less than half the total sea-level rise during that period,” says Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, and leader of the NEEM-project.

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    https://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/news/n...e-of-the-past/

    Um, Nature is a propaganda platform for "global warming" so you can't scream, "Koch Brothers!" "Big Oil" "Right-wing blog!" "Green Meanies!

    So.....logically then....if sea levels rise another 4 meters, what is the only honest truthful valid statement we can make?

    This Inter-Glacial Period is just like the others.

    Elaborate in detail why this Inter-Glacial Period should be different than all the others and be colder, with lower sea levels than the others.

    We'll wait while you fumble about making excuses.
     
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    What differentiates that period and the present? The billions of tons of CO2 emitted in to the atmosphere by man burning carbon based fuels every year.

    How much carbon dioxide does the United States and the World emit each year from energy sources?
    The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that in 2019, the United States emitted 5.1 billion metric tons of energy-related carbon dioxide, while the global emissions of energy-related carbon dioxide totaled 33.1 billion metric tons.

    https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-...s_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
     

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