Global warming? Record snow on Alaska mountain peak linked to climate change

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  1. Bear513

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    Once great we had 5 times more C02 during the dino era and only two degrees hotter .
     
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    prove it.

    prove avg. Earth temps were only 2 degrees warmer with 2,000 CO2 ppm
     
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    Seriously.? You guys make all the excuse you want to justify fear mongering..




    The rest of the normal posters check this out ..

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.inde...ot-moon-international-space-a7902531.html?amp

    Nasa plans to make oxygen from atmosphere on Mars



    Nasa is planning to make oxygen from the atmosphere on Mars when its next robot arrives on the mysterious red planet in 2020.

    Scientists will send microbial life - possibly algae or bacteria - on the 2020 Rover mission in a bid to create air fit for human consumption.

    They aim to feed the microorganisms in Martian soil in the hope that they will pump out oxygen as a byproduct.
     
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    Common knowledge , reaserh it yourself
     
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    you attack everyone that disagrees with you cause you know we're right.

    now tell us again how temperatures going from -30 to -20 shouldn't bring more snow.

    LOL!!!
     
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    Let me guess I can't use proxies ...
     
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    Try using propper spelling and grammar.
     
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    where's your evidence?

    got any?

    or do you just pull FAKE NEWS out of your ass?
     
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    I know your right ?


    Lmfao...you always spout propaganda about venus ye fail to mention man doesn't live on Venus and you always fail to mention Mars.


    Prove their was no water on Mars


    Prove their was no life on Mars
     
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    Why you going to pay me?
     
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    What fake news ? Are you that anti science that you didn't know we had 5 times the C02 and only 2 degrees hotter?
     
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    prove it.

    i think you simply pulled this out of your Fox News ass.
     
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    I never said "there was no water on Mars".

    I never said "there was no life on Mars".

    It's pretty pathetic of you to argue with a strawman, but I guess that's the only person you think you can beat in a debate.

    And by the way, its "there" not "their".

    Please get educated.
     
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    Yes you did and you use a damn straw man with Venus , don't cha?

    It's pretty pathetic when you use a straw man to try to win an argument


    And get a real job if you think it's your job to be the spelling and grammar police on here
     
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    I never mentioned Venus.

    Get better glasses.
     
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    Really? And your reference for this is??

    Although we have proxy records for the era we do not have definitive indicators of GLOBAL temperatoures at the time in particular we do not have records of the temperatures at the tropics. Neither do we have reliable records of solar output during this period
     
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    Errr you DO realise dont you that this does NOT mean they are planning to convert the entire atmosphere?
     
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    Why is Venus a strawman??

    I acknowledge that the parallels are not perfect but the basic lessons in relation to Carbon dioxide are pertinent
     
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    Small step


    No?
     
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    Because

    Man never lived on Venus


    And they always ignore Mars atmosphere because it doesn't fit there narrative.
     
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    Sorry was that logic just bolting out the door?

    Strawman 1

    Who said man was responsible for ALL Co2??

    Strawman 2

    Mars is SMALLER than earth ergo has less atmosphere


    Venus is a similar sized planet to earth
    Venus USED to have water and were it not for the runaway greenhouse effect COULD be habitable

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2475/nasa-climate-modeling-suggests-venus-may-have-been-habitable/
     
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    How about when it was revealed that the poles on mars were also seeing melt, coinciding with out own melt? Well, it was revealed but then MSM failed to cover it, so it may as well not have been revealed.

    So, if our climatologists know so much about co2 and climate change, they should be able to tell us at how many parts per million co2 needs to increase to in order to turn us into venus? And what about the ice cores which give a record of higher co2 levels without the warming? I heard a geologist mention this a few years ago, in passing, and wondered why the co2 crowd never mention it? Is it because it would throw a hand full of pubic hairs in their ice cream?

    Personally, I think co2 and AGW is based on hype. That a doomsday scenerio is fabricated, in part due to the vast limitation of what we really do know about climate change and the co2 factor. Aided by a huge injection of billions of bucks, given to prove what the IPCC had assumed, before the research really began. That was the first red flag, followed by the fudging and changing of data which one should never ever see in serious research. Also, when your predictive climate models fail in prediction, then something is wrong with the model, and some assumptions were made which should not have been made. And no doubt the assumptions were favorable to co2 levels and global warming.

    I also think we are a very arrogant species to think that we are so important, that we can even destroy humanity by putting co2 into the atmosphere. That trying to stay warm in the winter, cool in the summer, and not having to walk 50 miles to work, will bring about the end of the human race and other animals.

    Of course, if you gave most people the choice between living as we do today, with all of the modern conveniences, and some climate change as opposed to living was we lived as hunters and gatherers, with no climate change, we would choose the former, not the latter. Anyways, the rich will always be very comfortable, but expect the non elites to suck it up and live a miserable life, in order that the rich can keep their lifestyles intact. For the rich deserve it, while the peons do not. Has Uncle Al Gore changed his fossil fuel use? lol
     
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    Creating 02 in a test tube is very very different from changing an atmosphere

    However it IS possible because we know that has happened on Earth
     
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    Mars' atmosphere is very very thin, compared to Earth's.

    That's why it has no weather, no storms, no climate whatsoever.
     
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    Congrats - in one para is combined complete ignorance plus conspiracy theory

    Poles on mars were seeing melt because it was SUMMER :roll:

    And the news sources did cover it but on page about 93. Because Martian summer is not NEWS!!!

    Just because you do not know something does not mean the information is not freely available

    Because you have not added links or references to your allegations neither will t but I can categorically state that you are wrong and the information IS out there.

    Just because someone has not bothered to look does not mean there is a world wide conspiracy


    Think what you like YOUR single unsupported opinion means diddly squat in academia or Comercial enterprise who are acting on scientific findings
     
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