Gravitational waves discovered on 100th anniversary of Einstiens theory of relitivity

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's technology, not cosmology! Not only are you a bit confused, but you obviously have a closed mind, and I see no point in arguing with you.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    I.....I have a closed mind!!??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

    You don't get it at all!!!

    The BIG PRIZE is being able to develop and understand the UFT.....UNIFIED FIELD THEORY!!!

    The UFT would be able to unify Macro-Physics with Quantum Mechanics!!!!

    This is why I talk about QM specific to Cosmology!!!

    If you develop and understand a UFT......you would be able to generate ENERGY TO MATTER INTERCHANGE!!!

    IT IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF PHYSICS!!!

    Einstein worked on trying to develop the UFT till the DAY HE DIED!!!

    I am not the one with the closed mind!!!

    YOU ARE!!

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  3. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever! I have a feeling there will be no meeting of minds between us on this subject. :mrgreen:
     
  4. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    What I am posting is not my opinion.

    I am posting FACTS that are verified by NASA as well as Physicists and Cosmologist in BOTH Russia and the United States.

    This is NOT opinion.

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  5. VicSavage

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    I thought so, i was thinking that the creation of the photon would create a gravity wave to which the photon would impart some of it's light energy to the wave. The wave would then be able to travel through both slits giving us the wave pattern.
    It sure is fun to think about even if it's wrong.
     
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    Well as a Photon does not have any MASS.....it is capable of traveling at the Universal Maximum Velocity of 186,282 Miles per Second.

    So because the Higgs Field cannot bestow MASS upon a Photon unlike the MASS the Higgs Field allows all Hadrons....ie...Proton, Neutron and Pion....as well as most Quantum Particle/Wave Forms such as an ELECTRON which has a Micro-Mass.......the PHOTON is capable of obtaining this Universal Maximum Velocity.

    HOWEVER.....even though the PHOTON is mass-less....it is STILL EFFECTED BY GRAVITY!!!

    Why?

    Because Gravity is warping universal Space-Time and as Einstein predicted the starlight geometrically BLOCKED BY THE PHYSICAL SIZE OF THE SUN.....can still be seen with the proper equipment as the starlight which is in reality behind the sun can be seen when the enormous mass of the sun warping space-time allows the Starlight coming in from behind the sun near it's edge but still physically blocked.....is in fact Starlight or Photons that will travel along the Space-Time warping as the Sun's mass changes the space-time dimensionality around and near the sun thus allowing Starlight that should be physically blocked by the sun to travel along and around the sun's space-time warping to be seen.

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    AboveAlpha, et al,

    I cannot say you are absolutely wrong in this realm of possibility; but rather --- what is the result of the measurement (alla Niels Bohr). This is a question of the wave-particle duality.

    (COMMENT)

    The Double Slit experiment yields an interference pattern (the central mystery) that is assumed to be evidence of a wave.

    The observations are (maybe conclusive, but probably not) evidence that quantum particles behaves as a wave is not necessarily correct. It is more proper (maybe) to ask if
    Albert Einstein's interpretation of reality is being more deterministic then the Niels Bohr more than probabilities and likelihoods; known as a "Probabilities Wave."

    I understand that interference pattern collapses if there is a detector (continuous surveillance) of the particles involved. My understand is that whether you use an electron, atom or buckyball (spherical array of 20 hexagrams by 12 Pentagrams) the experiment can be reproduced.

    Its important to incorporate the experiment and the notion which Ynes Couder presents in the wave-particle representation - and their relationship.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    Rocco....I was not going to get that heavy into a reply for Vic as he is just a beginner and my purpose was not to confuse a beginner with heavy concepts.

    It is difficult enough to get some members on this forum especially the Creationists who when hearing there was a Physics Book published called THE GOD PARTICLE.....ran out to the book store as fast as they could to buy it and place it on their Coffee Table to never be read but rather as a PROP to hold up and proclaim......

    ...."LOOK!! LOOK!!! SEE THIS!?? IT'S SCIENTIFIC PROOF GOD EXISTS!!"

    So when encountering a few such members I had to explain to them the REASON why the Book is called the GOD PARTICLE.

    Of course they had a hard time believing me after I explained to them that the Physicist that wrote the Book...THE GOD PARTICLE.....was in fact convinced to change the name of the book to....THE GOD PARTICLE.....by the PUBLISHER.

    You see the Physicist who wrote the book wrote it about his and other Particle Physicists infuriating search for what was for a long time a soul crushing and swearing out load search for....THE *******N PARTICLE!!!

    That particle being the Higgs-Boson which generates the Higgs Field which is responsible for allowing Hadrons...ie Protons, Neutrons and Pions to OBTAIN MASS.

    The Physicist who wrote that book originally titled it THE *******N PARTICLE.....but his PUBLISHER convinced him to change it to THE GOD PARTICLE.....because the PUBLISHER said...."If you change the title of your book to THE GOD PARTICLE......then not only with people in the Science Community buy it but ALSO EVERY ANTI-SCIENCE WACK JOB OUT THERE WHO IS DYING TO FIND SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT GOD EXIST WILL ALSO BUY IT!! LOL!!!

    The Publisher was right as even though many in the science community bought it....MILLIONS OF CREATIONISTS BOUGHT IT thinking the book supplied PROOF that GOD existed.

    It went on to becoming one of the best selling physics books of all time!!!

    And the hilarious thing is even to this day....every now and then I get a member who argues with me that THEY have scientific evidence that PROVES 100%...that a GOD exist....and then they pull out or post about this book....THE GOD PARTICLE!! LOL!!!

    Sad thing is these people bought the book you would think they would at least READ IT??

    AA
     
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    Particles schmarticles! :bored: [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I take it you own a copy?

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    Never go anywhere without it! lol
     
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    Every 2 months or so I get someone on this forum who will argue there exists scientific evidence of GOD existing and then they will tell me about this book called....THE GOD PARTICLE!!! LOL!!!

    When I post them the facts about the books title at first they don't believe me and say I am making it up!!

    Then I ask them if they have EVER READ THE BOOK??

    They will IMMEDIATELY say..."What do you mean have I read the book? Of course I have read the book!"

    Which makes informing them of the facts all the more funny!!

    You would think a person who buys a book would at the VERY LEAST open up the book and read a few pages!!

    Nope....they never do.

    AA
     
  13. VicSavage

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    Thank you! For keeping it simple. I learn a lot here from you. The fact that you answer my questions without making me feel like bozo the clown makes you aces in my book. I'm not even sure why I want to understand but it seems important to me now. So Thanks again, You ROCK!
     
  14. VicSavage

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    I did the blanket thing with the balls, very cool. So visualizing that in 3d. can gravity be described as a pressure of time space such as pressure on a submarine under water?
     
  15. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well 'particle' is the word du jour these days, isn't it. Mention that word to anyone and they automatically go into 'gullible mode', and believe every word you say no matter how ridiculous. Especially the BBC! :roll: [​IMG]
     
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    The Higgs-Boson is a Quantum Particle/Wave Form as is ALL QUANTA.

    It exists as both a Particle and a Wave Form of ENERGY as does an Electron, Photon, Quark, Gluon...etc.

    All MATTER is completely comprised of Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of ENERGY.

    What was GULLIBLE was all these CREATIONISTS who went and paid $49.95 for a Hardcover Book called...THE GOD PARTICLE thinking they has just purchased SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT A GOD EXISTED!! LOL!!!

    As I posted the Physicist who wrote the book originally titled the book THE *******N PARTICLE....but changed it to THE GOD PARTICLE when his VERY SMART publisher convinced him to do so as the Publisher KNEW that every Creationist Wacko who had very little scientific knowledge would probably NEVER even open the book or read it!! LOL!!

    Thus the book is one of the largest selling Physics Books in HISTORY!!

    And I keep running into them here as every now and then some member brings up the existence of scientific PROOF that a GOD exists and I ask them to show me and they immediately bring up the book called....THE GOD PARTICLE!! LOL!!

    A person could not MAKE UP something that funny!

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    It's more important to have a desire to learn and understand that have some knowledge but have little to no desire to expand that knowledge.

    A person can ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING NEW!!

    But if a person thinks they know it all and that anything new is false without learning whether or not it's fact or fiction....then they hold back the rest of us from advancing.

    AA
     
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    No....not pressure.

    Your thinking of a FORCE and Gravity is not a force.

    It does not push or pull or tug or do anything of that nature.

    Gravity is the name we have given to how Space-Time Dimensionality is CHANGED due to any amount of MASS.

    The greater the MASS...the greater the actual PHYSICAL WARPING of Universal Space-Time.

    DISTANCE CHANGES.

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    Gotcha as in time space is increased by half of the circumference of as opposed to the diameter? How does that warping keep my but planted on the ground?
     
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    Google....INVERSE SQUARE LAW OF GRAVITY.

    It will allow you to understand this.

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    :roll: I give up, I really do!
     
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    I did it. I see that the math works I guess i was looking for a more complex answer. I did come across this http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2015/12/what-is-spacetime-really/ I found his network idea very interesting.
     
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    I did not even notice you were trying to do something?

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    The problem that Blogger is having is he is attempting to generate a Visual Representation of Space-Time using an Algorithm which he has developed specific to condition.

    It won't work and as he get's to the Quantum Level you will notice how he BALKS.

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    [​IMG] Heard the latest?

    "Mars methane mission set for lift-off" Everybody . . . . yayyyy!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35799792

    I mean read that drivel - how on earth can anyone with a full-developed brain believe it? It's that kind of childlike gullibility which I find so worrying about humankind as a matter of fact.
     

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