Gunmen kill 40 in attack at concert hall near Moscow, Russia's FSB says

Well...nowhere viska....you keep bringing it up....so thats on you dude....

Well....AH considered Slavs as low class....RuZzians in particular.

 

"It's cultural rather than genetic".

RuZzians suffer from inferiority complex.....they claim they don't.....but they do.

 

LoL.

 

Putin now admits radical Islamist's were behind the attack but still insists that somehow (no explanation given) Ukraine was involved???

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...l-islamists-behind-moscow-concert-hall-attack

Well, if nothing else it's going to be interesting to see how he's straitens out this little 'fact pretzel'. Six degrees of separation perhaps?

 

Putler ...it seems....now, he's fighting 3 fronts....Ukraine (UAF), RDK/FRL/Siberian battalion who are lodged in Belgorod/Kursk...and now ISIS-K....not a good scene, and could get even worse if France/NATO/Macron send boots ...would make 4 fronts.

I suspect he'll keep throwing bodies into the fire.....why stop now.....it's those minorities that are being sent into the meat grinder.....the Moscow /Pete "Russians" haven't been directly affected by this war....yet.

 

On a side note (and purely by coincidence I'm sure ) all our little Russian friends who were earnestly trying to convince the rest of us that Ukraine was behind the attack? They all seem to have gone MIA.

I wonder why?

 

Well, the terrorists don't look Ukrainian to me... I imagine their journey to hell has already begun.

 

As you do.

 

The explanation is given: these guys have been catched near the Ukrainian border. Seems someone waited for them there.

 

If you take it on face value that the men concerned were 'captured' where claimed (a fact that has not as yet been interdependently corroborated) then all that means is that where they were caught. Nothing else. If they were court heading north it doesn't mean Finland was behind the attack. If they were caught heading south it doesn't mean that it was Georgia or Turkey. Hell even if they were captured heading east it doesn't mean Chechnya was the source of the attack. All it proves is that they were taking a route they thought might give them the best chance of evading capture! Proving the actual source of the attack requires investigation for no other reason than the fact ISIS has in the past claimed credit in the past for attacks it later turned out they didn't carry out. Suspecting ISIS involvement is one thing, proving it another. That takes time.

So, assuming Russian security forces actually have caught some or all of people involved in the attack (and not just rounded up some random bodies to cover up for their failure to prevent the attack in the first place)? Time will tell.

Oh and BTW if Ukraine really did contemplate launching a commando attack somewhere in Moscow, even a suicidal one? The target would not have been a rock concert!

 

Anyone can head in any direction...visko....it's a path taken believed to have least amount of resistance and best chance of escape.

 

The word is that they did it for money, which seems believable, because ISIS hitmen usually have no plans for escape

 

If these are the same perpetrators that did the crime and not some random mongrels dragged off a street somewhere?

 

Well, if someone is captured near the border to another country and the vector of his movement is in the direction inside the other country - it is obvious that he goes there and nowhere else. To track the car with the cameras nowadays is easy. So all is documented. They wanted to escape to Ukraine. What has to be proved, however, is if Ukraine was going to assist them to cross the border and escape FSB.

 

Best chance to escape was to stay in Moscow and hide there for some time. Only idiots can use the same car to escape that brought them to make a terrorist attack.

 

That's the thing with torture, especially the extreme kind like they use in Russia, where they cut off body parts and make you eat them. Anyone will say anything to make it stop. So, these guys could be some peasants from the remote areas who were forced to "confess" under torture.

Russian medicine.......

 

Moskva ranks in the top 5 of the most surveillance cameras everywhere in the early I hear....they probably have cameras in toilet bowls(did they steal them from Ukraine). Good luck with that.


You just want them to escape to Ukraine to justify more missile strikes viskochem....easy to see.

I suspect these are just some random jokers rounded up somewhere to cover up for phuck ups.

Let's see....

-gunmen didn't take hostages

-gunmen made no demands

-metal detectors turned off, doors locked?.....like in Dubrovka theater back in Oct.2002?

-gunmen given nearly 1.5 hrs to massacre 100+ orcs....then allowed to escape.

The real perpetrators are probably sitting on an outdoor Cafe in Germany somewhere....sipping on Heineken beers....

Viskocheh....

 

Firstly is it? Really. Pray tell whats to stop someone stopping and hiding in a remote/rural area of a huge country like Russia and then staying there until they think its safe to move again. Secondly the 'and move nowhere else' bit is telling. So that's how international travel works does it? You move from country A to country B and then your stuck there. There's not the slightest chance someone might then transit on country/ies C, D or E is there?

Even your 'boss' hasn't stated that he knows for a 'fact' that Ukraine was the intended final destination of the attackers. And that's assuming the men that were arrested/tortured by the FSB and paraded on television were the attackers and not just convenient scapegoats pending identification of the real culprits.

 

Ha ha, sure. They drove to the Ukrainian border to hide in the Russian forests there. The probability that they have chosen to drive in this specific direction just by accident is 0. It does not matter if they stopped in Ukraine or moved further to Europe. To enter the country and leave it later they would need the help of the Ukrainian officials. Their faces have been registered on cameras in the concert hall apart from the fact that there were a lot of witnesses who identified them so FSB caught the right people.

 

Well....that's weird....Lukashenka has indicated they were headed to Belarus before turning southward to Ukraine.

Were they going to meet someone in Belarus? Batjka better hope that's not the case?


Pootler has somewhat backtracked on his claims about Ukraine destination.

Maybe this is musical chairs...viska.

 

1) Who said woods? I said remote/rural. News flash! Not everyone in Russia lives in Moscow and St Petersburg. Albeit they seem to be the only ones who matter.
2) Why would they need the help of of Ukrainian officials. Ever heard of illegal immigrants? And even if they cross the border (claiming to fleeing Russian persecution) how are the Ukrainians supposed to know they were the ones involved in the attack? How would the immigration officials of any country know? Especially if they split up before crossing.
3) As another poster has noted? How do you know Ukraine was the intended destination and not another country like Belarus? Just because Putin told you so?

Face it. You want it to be Ukraine. Or at least you want to convince the more gullible here that it was. The only problem? You can't prove it.

But what does that matter? No, Putin has thrown your bone and by God your going to run as far and as fast with it as you can. Happy traveling.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/ale...ack-moscow-terrorists-to-belarus-not-ukraine/

 

1. This Bryansk area between Russia and Ukraine/Belarus is full of woods if you do not know. There virtually no settlements there. 2. The border between Russia and Ukraine is locked now, it is a death zone. Anyone who tries to cross it from either side is at high risk to be killed. Apart from those, who has some previous agreements. 3. Belarus is a friendly state to Russia, therefore, it is stupid to try to escape there. For what? To be caught and deported back to Russia or to be sentenced to death there as Belarus still has death penalty?

 

Why would Lukashenko claim they tried to flee there if they didn't?

 

If you look closely on the map, you would see that the highway where the terrorists have been stooped splits in two parts later-one going to Belarus , another to Ukraine. This place is kind of triangle where Russia, Belarus and Ukraine border each other. I guess that the statement of Lukashenko is just the guess that they were headed to Belarus. In fact, they had two options. From the common sense it is clear that that they can expect nothing good from Lukashenko, as he is Putin's buddy. So the only choice for them was to head towards Ukraine, if they have not been caught before the highway was splitted.