Gyasi Ross tells White Americans to go back to Europe, end Thanksgiving and give him back land

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  1. Esau

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    It was all their land.
     
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    The Blackfoot and the Sioux wiped out the Shoshone and the Southern Cheyenne. The Commanches wiped out all the Apaches west of the Rio Grande.

    And you're going to defend that?
     
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    It's their land. Internecine wars were common in feudal times. That doesn't excuse colonialism.
     
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    so, if they kill each other over the land that’s fine. But if someone else comes along and does it, that’s a problem?

    man, that’s really funny.
     
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    You're on my ignore list. I'll wait until bill asks that question, if indeed he does [find it appropriate]
     
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    yes the whiney "pay me" sounds very Western.
     
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    this will make him laugh as hard as I did.
     
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    Then why are you still here?
     
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    He looks so oppressed and doesn't realize that native americans didn't own the land either.

    Not much brain power in that argument.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see you're a fan of original sin.

    I.E the descendants of a people that did bad things are guilty.

    If that's the case, then this guy is just as guilty coming from people that murdered entire tribes and engaged in slavery, so deserves nothing.

    The difference between his descendants and ours is that we won. That's it.

    That is, of course, accepting your statements at face value as true, which they're not.

    Even if they were though, you're still wrong.
     
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    Why wouldn't I be?
     
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    Nope, but the fact that native Americans committed atrocities against themselves doesn't negate the fact that we came over and did it to them.
     
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    We were the chickens coming home to roost then.
     
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    You're a colonizer that is living on their land, according to your own argument.

    So.....why are you still here if you're living on stolen land?
     
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  15. Cybred

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    Again, why wouldn't I be?
     
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    So you're ok with stealing their land then.

    Ok.
     
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  17. Polydectes

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    I would say the second he gets rid of all cars any buildings he lives in air conditioning glass pane windows indoor plumbing phone lines water treatment synthetic fabrics razor blades modern medicine the wheel cell phone computer horseback riding English written languages paved roads indoor heating and everything else that wasn't here in the 13th century if not we're here to stay and he will benefit from that.
     
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    How dare he appropriate our culture.
     
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    As people have always been violent, it is rather unreasonable to think that new people arriving in the Americas would suddenly become pacific, especially when the people they met there were at least equally violent. It is a tribute to civilization that we even have such a discussion today , distorted though it may be.
     
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    Exactly. I wouldn't doubt that every single human being alive can trace themselves back to someone that was a slave at some point in history.

    It was, after all, a global phenomena.

    Now the woke only want to complain about the countries that got rid of it, and ignore the countries that still engage in modern slavery.
     
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    White people don't have a culture they have fragility didn't you read the book.

    Lol
     
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    It was a conquest and was ugly like all conquests. But it is time to move on. It happened a long, long time ago.
     
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    Which STILL does not negate the fact that we committed it here no matter how much you want it to.
     
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    We didn't commit ****. Why do you identify with people just because you're the same race?

    You know race made up right?

    So we didn't do **** this happened before our great-grandparents were even born. Some strangers that I never knew and never knew anybody that ever knew them did something to some other strangers that I never knew and I never knew anybody that knew them so there's no we involved here.

    If you have white guilt or something you didn't do that's a psychological issue you need to deal with. I'm not going to admit to anything on the basis of how I'm perceived racially speaking.
     
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    I have no interest in re-writing history. I just think that this issue should no longer be an issue. It can't change anything. Oh I forgot. REPARATIONS. Someone wants people who have never engaged in genocide to pay money to people who have never been the target of genocide. See, I get it.
     
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