Gyasi Ross tells White Americans to go back to Europe, end Thanksgiving and give him back land

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  1. vman12

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    I dunno. Are you a typical whatever you are?
     
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    the Zulu killed Europeans in Africa. They dont traverse continents killing ppl for land and resources like Americans do. Please don't compare Zulu to Europeans, that's disingenuous and if you want to talk about Zulu then tread carefully, since it was a case study of mine for several years. Have you heard of mfecane?
     
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    Enough about me, you've been giving me your life story up until now, why stop? Simply curious as to whether you consider yourself a typical American sailor?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-02-mn-19358-story.html

    2nd Massacre in a Week Kills 30 in South Africa : Rampage: Zulus from hostel invade nearby black township. New wave of political violence is feared.
     
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    Except I know what you're doing, so it's not going to work.

    Keep looking for an angle.
     
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    What part of "Zulu don't traverse CONTINENTS massacring ppl as Americans do" didn't you understand?
     
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    It's already worked. Any real marine would know by now what just happened, sailor.
     
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    Off you go to the blaggart list.
     
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    To be fair, would they have preferred we not come there, kill most of them with disease, and conquer their countries? Yes. But did we bring things they ultimately did value such as what you describe? Yes. At the end of the day though, it was simply inevitable. We had the technology well ahead of a sense of moral decency. Maybe next time if we did space travel and found a planet with primitive people we wouldn't enslave and exploit them... maybe. But what's in the past... that far in the past... is in the past. Time to move on.
     
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    Which STILL does not negate the fact that we committed it here no matter how much you want it to.
     
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    Fair enough but it's about learning from past mistakes. Which ultimately means recompense no?
     
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    Which is still true.
     
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    Maybe if any of them were still alive to receive it, or at least their kids. It's just too late. It would be like somebody coming up to me saying their ancient ancestor ripped off my ancient ancestor and now owe me money. Kind of silly.
     
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    You guys are the ones that ignore stuff.
     
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    Do not call me names or insult me. I am merely telling you what the original author said.
    People of all colours and many nationalities built THE USA including thousands of Chinese who built your railroads, Basques and Norwegians who farmed the prairies you stole, Italians who created trade and the service industry, and Jews who found refuge and financial security there. Unfortunately the modern America has bred some rather obnoxious people. Not really your vast improvement.
     
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    Violence and genocide and slavery existed in the Asians that migrated here later to be called American Indians. Where the Pilgrams and other settlers first settled were mostly wilderness with no claims by anyone. Tribes were migratory and American was open country.
     
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    Yeah I know what happened. You tried to compare the violence in Africa to the violence in the US and lost.
     
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    That doesn't negate the fact that we brought violence and genocide no matter how much you want it to.
     
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    "massacres don't count unless they traversed a continent"

    lolz
     
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    That's how you know you won.
     
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    Don't you think it would be wise to ask THEM instead of insisting on our belief system? Maybe they have a spirit that is about ancestor worship and if so it could be a big deal for them as to how their ancestors were treated. Just because we dgaf about our ancestors it's doesn't mean they have that same belief system
     
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    The native americans never claimed land, so technically they didn't own it to begin with.
     
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    Hm, that's an interesting point, but I'm not a postmodernist so no, I wouldn't ask them.
     
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    really..
    Asking about the unheard is postmodernism??? :eyepopping:
     
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    Considering ancestor worship in whether we give somebody reparations is definitely postmodernism. It's one thing to make sure you have all the facts in making a determination. It's another to treat their religion as factual just because they believe it.
     
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