HAB Theory and getting Conservatives to take climate change seriously.

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Have major magnetic polar shifts really occurred?

  1. Yes... and growth of polar ice could be a primary reason.

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  2. Not in tens of thousands of years.

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  3. Yes... perhaps 171 times in the last five million years.

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  4. Yes... but the idea of this happening around 2030 is silly.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dr. Albert Einstein took The HAB Theory very seriously.

    In my opinion the addition of H2O to the central region of Antarctica is the reason why New Orleans is not already covered by the Gulf of New Mexico!

    http://www.habtheory.com/1/100.php


     
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    If we became more informed about how vulnerable the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is to cracking and sliding....... we would all be much more interested in the expansion of the Sahara Forest Project because every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the water table of a nation with lots of desert..... will not be on top of New Orleans or Bangladesh or Holland or New Jersey or.....

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090205142132.htm


    http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/qatar.html
     
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    I dont know if this a joke or not but were this true there would be thousands of mass extinctions and there just any evidence for this...
     
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    The seemingly flash frozen remains of Woolly Mammoths found in Siberia is impressive!
     
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    they weren't flash frozen, it's an urban myth...
     
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    Really? a mass extinction 7500 years ago?
     
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    thousands possibly millions of mass extinctions, how does complex life evolve with a mass extinction every 7k years...
     
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    Well.....one possibility is that beings with technology far far far far beyond our own.... assist a segment of us through the changes to survive physically.......... and evolve physically...… whereas others die.... and evolve spiritually.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/other-off-topic-chat/338698-will-ufos-assist-bringing-peace-world.html

    Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????



    I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:





    (Christian Andreason, chapter 2 of online book) http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
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    … and it seems like the types of vegetation that we have in the USA and Canada..... were all over parts of Antarctica!!!!!!??

    http://natgeotv.com/uk/baby-mammoth-frozen-in-time

    Just as this Woolly Mammoth was perfectly preserved in Siberia......… frozen trees can be found under the ice in Antarctica...… I have read that much of the fossils appear flash frozen.... which would tend to verify the possibility of magnetic polar wobble/flip??!!!
     
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    … and.... Dr. Steven Greer has a great theory on why the government cannot let it be know that UFO's exist...… if the majority..... of people.... even "conservatives" knew the truth about aliens..... would we continue to believe that oil was the best source of energy???????!!!!

    No..... we would take a whole new look at the Tesla theories!

    www.TheOrionProject.org/
     
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    HAB Theory........ could be highly useful in assisting the western democracies to begin to cooperate with the Islamic world on investing in turning deserts green:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/322565-gods-peace-plan-holy-land.html

    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land



    I read this intriguing plan for peace in the Middle East twice already! It is about fifty pages and well worth your time to consider!


    http://www.godspeaceplan.org/

    (Scroll down to the link: Click Here to Download Your Copy of the Peace Plan).

    ............…

    .angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110


    Which......could prevent the death of thousands if not millions of people in death camps that have been set up in many Islamic nations!!!!?????
     
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    Oh, the magnetic poles definitely shift, but on average it's every 300,000 years, and the last time was 800,000 years ago, so we are due, and the magnetic pole is moving, but it's not going to happen overnight....

    And there is evidence that the poles shift, but the last major shift was hundreds of millions years ago, not 7500 years ago.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis
     
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    Graham Hancock stated in his book that the sheer weight of the ice on Antarctica would seem to cause major imbalance by the year 2030..... which is interesting......for many reasons!


     
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    But you are saying that something that hasn't happened in 700 million years is going to happen in 2030, do you see the problem?
     
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    Actually.... Immanuel Velikovsky in one of his books stated that there have been 171 major magnetic polar shifts over the past five million years.


    Immanuel Velikovsky was a good friend of Dr. Albert Einstein..... and Dr. Einstein did make some interesting statements on this topic also.



     
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    He was wrong
    Here's the way it usually works the longer you spend studying something the more you know about it.
    It's been over 60 years, and a great deal more is known about magnetic pole shifts.
     
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    So 293 cubic miles or so of ice being added to the central part of Antarctica does not worry you at all?

    This figure could even increase considering how fast the Himalayan Glaciers are melting!
     
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    there are no "perfectly"preserved mammoths that's just widely exaggerated, bad journalism...a quote from a scientific report on the same mammoth "Muscle tissues and hypoderm were almost wholly decomposed and their fragments showed up white on the terrace slope surface." so very far from perfect...

    planet climate has changed plus continental drift... so trees in the polar regions is not a surprise...

    flash freezing a impossible don't believe everything you read...why does magnetic pole reversal need to accompany climate change? the poles are cold primarily because of Milankovitch cycles, the tilt of the planet and atmospheric composition... you'll need to explain how the polar reversal has any effect...

    frozen mammoths- they drowned or died in muskeg, lakes or rivers...there is little decay in the arctic as long the organism is covered by water particularly in muskeg there will be no decay for thousands of years. permafrost completes the process permanently, nothing mysterious in that, certainly doesn't require the mythical flash freezing ...

    here's john torrington from the Franklin Expedition dead 170yrs, no flash freezing required, just normal permafrost john-torrington-300x269.jpg and like the mammoths if he doesn't thaw he'll look the same 10K yrs from now...
     
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    Did you miss the part where it's been 700 million years since this last happened?
     
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    I do agree with there being 650,000 years or so of discernible layers of ice on Greenland and/or Antarctica..... I don't debate Mr. Al Gore's statistic that he quotes in An Inconvenient Truth...... but....... there is a big difference between 650,000 and 700,000,000!

    Now I am not on exactly the same page as the author of this article..... but.... .do you dispute his assertion that amazing numbers of Woolly Mammoths and other creatures seem to have frozen...... within a relatively short period of time?

    One of the latest magnetic polar shifts....... is one of the best theories as to why this may have occurred?!


    http://creation.com/the-extinction-of-the-woolly-mammoth-was-it-a-quick-freeze
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    Yes.. I was somewhat lazy and did not bother looking for a source for this info that you would be somewhat more impressed by....... but...... the facts quoted here are pretty well common knowledge. Whatever happened to all these frozen animals........ was not an event anything like 700,000,000 years in the past!!!!!!??
     

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