Here is a very interesting fact

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a very interesting fact to ponder. During the civil war approx 620,000 white people died to free slaves. Yet I have never heard even one thank you, and I am 82 years old.

    Whats worse is many black people call us racist, and in most cases it is an out and out lie. Further they have come up with this nonsense that we have so call "white privilege".

    Yes, a simple thank you would seem to be in order now and then!!!!
     
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    Well, it wasn't you who died, obviously! They're complaining about attitudes now.
     
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    You are misrepresenting the facts; you are correct that approximately 620,000 white people died in the Civil War, what you failed to recognize that about 260,000 of them died fighting to keep slavery.
     
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    Their attitude SHOULD be one of thankfulness that the 620,000 white that died so they are free full citizens of the US in spite of democrats.
     
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    Those 260,000 were democrats. I can think of no excuse for them. Democrats will FOREVER have to live with the fact their party members were evil. It is history that no one should forget.
     
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    I suppose they would argue that they are not free full citizens on account of systemic racism, like having a cop kneel on your neck for 8 minutes. And I don't suppose the cop was a Democrat, neither.
     
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    If you perform the ultimate sacrifice your funeral service may qualify for a 'thank you'.

    Lip-service patriotism doesn't qualify.
     
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    Then again Bro, when they refer to racist they are in fact referring to the old south, the birth place of racism and the Democratic Party.. But we'll keep that to ourselves they haven't come to terms with their heritage yet ;)
     
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    Yes I laughed, see post #8 LMAO :)
     
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    Or have some old Democrat plantation owner hang one from a tree and let the dogs chew his feet off for RUNNING or RESISTING!
     
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    You mean southern conservatives.
     
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    Among the very many reasons you'll never get a "Thank You" note from BLM is that the Northern agenda was not about freeing the slaves in the Southern states or anywhere else for that matter.

    I can think of no instance in history in which an industrial society has been able to live near an agrarian society without the industrialized society seeking to dominate and enrich itself at the expense of the agrarian society.
    Simply look at how industrialized European countries established colonies to acquire natural resources cheaply than neighboring European countries.

    For example, one of the many economic reasons that the less populous South wanted to be a separate country is that the more populous North could pass tariff laws through Congress that made imported, European manufactured goods more expensive than the already expensive Northern goods.
    If the South were a separate country it could buy manufactured goods from Europe more cheaply than being forced to buy Northern manufactured goods.

    In other words, the Civil War was fought for economic reasons and not out of any noble and humanitarian concern for the well being of distant Blacks in the South.



    “Not the Great Emancipator: 10 Racist Quotes Abraham Lincoln Said About Black People”
    https://atlantablackstar.com/2015/0...s-quotes-abraham-lincoln-said-black-people/4/

    EXCERPT “While the previous quotes prove that, politically, Lincoln was not firmly insistent on freeing the slaves of the South, his following quote reveals that he personally did not want to: “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” CONTINUED
     
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    No I mean southern democrat slave owners. They voted democrat before and after the civil war. And that is a fact. Dont try to re-write democrat history. Democrat will ALWAYS be connected to slavery.
     
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    There was a sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of Americans because of slavery.
    Slavery existed from the beginnings of humanity in every time and place.
    The movement to end slavery is the result of the European age of enlightenment.
    These are simple facts. They are not racist, they are not conservative, they are not liberal, they are not pro-or anti- American.
    Many huge mistakes have been made by and in the name of the U.S. Many great things have been done by and in the name of the U.S.
    This is a time when everyone can take into consideration what we want the nation to become.
     
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    The only way to get to your, "620,000 white soldiers died to free the slaves ..." is if you INCLUDE the Southern soldiers who died fighting to KEEP slavery. Just admit it. You made a false claim in your opening argument.
     
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    The OP also doesn't point out that most civilized countries ended slavery with peaceful changes in laws - there weren't thousands of white people with guns fighting to keep slavery like there was in the U.S.
     
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    Again the fact I stated is true. You are nit picking so as not to comment on the fact that 620,000 mainly whites fought to free the slaves from democrats.
     
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    Right, southern conservatives. I'm not re-writing anything. You're ignoring the fact that the parties were much different in the 1800s than current day parties. The Dem party back then was the party of conservatives. Honest (ahem) mistake on your part I'm sure.
     
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    That's not what you claimed in your initial statement. You claimed that 620,000 white people DIED to end slavery. That's not true. Over 240,000 of those 620,000 white Americans died trying to keep slaves as slaves.
     
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    Your blind hatred of Democrats has hindered your ability to do math.
     
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    People that dont commit crimes in the first place seldom have the police kneel on their necks. Simple as that!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Yes and they are called democrats.
     
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    So anyone that commits a crime, no matter how small, or even a non-existent one as in this case, can expect to be killed by the police - but only if they're black?
     
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    Are you trying to make heros out of the democrat slave owners since they were the ones that killed the 620,000 Union soldiers both black and white. Again I made no pretense out including the southern democrats that that killed the union soldiers. Why do you belabor this fact, just to try to derail the thread?
     
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    But in this case they were democrats!!!! Dont try to weasel out of the fact they were democrats!!! They were democrats before and after the civil war. As I said before democrats will ALWAYS be connected with slavery, lynchings, and the KKK!!!! You might not like that but it is a fact and all party of history!!! At the time of the civil was liberals and conservative were not closely defined as they are today.
     
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