Honduran Woman in Migrant Caravan Gives Birth Shortly After Entering U.S. Illegally

No in foster care. It is absolutely ridiculous that people from any other country are forced to leave but if you come from Latin America you get a free pass. Either everyone gets a pass or no one gets a pass. I worked at a company that got work visas for 20 something, college educated, English speaking workers from countries like Poland and countries in Asia who already had job skills and training and they only got to stay four months and then went home. Some of them would have loved to stay but they couldn't. Meanwhile we let tons of people in who we know nothing about and many of whom are not college educated or have valuable work skills or training and give them a free pass. Its also insulting to immigrants who got their citizenship legitimately.

I don't have an issue with people coming here to work but they need to pass a background check and register so that they can pay taxes. Since many of them are paid under the table in cash (often much less than native workers would be paid how is that NOT servitude) they are NOT paying any taxes at all outside of sales tax. We already know that they are a net loss in states that allow them access to their welfare systems. An additional benefit is that requiring them to register would also mean that companies could not abuse them by paying them less. How is it that people like you claim to care about these illegals yet seem to have no problem with illegals getting paid pennies on the dollar compared to legals and natives? You literally are supporting slavery or at the very least discriminatory pay.

 

No, no, no. Change U.S. law, then quickly send the baby back with the parents before it can be considered falling under U.S. jurisdiction. Contrary to popular belief, the Fourteenth Amendment does NOT necessarily guarantee automatic citizenship just because a foreign child was born on U.S. soil.

If, however, the baby stays for more than a brief period of time and begins growing up in the country, then it becomes "naturalized" and does have to be considered a citizen.

 

The fact is...that is current US law.

In fact, yours is the belief. ...or more correctly the counter belief.

It is your counter-belief that has never been put to the test in court.

 

Yes, current U.S. law. But not a Constitutional requirement.
The former is easier to change than the latter.

The story in the OP demonstrates how absurd and stupid current U.S. law is.

What's next, are pregnant women going to be parachuting in?

How about a woman giving birth on a plane on a direct flight from Mexico city to Toronto?

 

Breathing air is not a constitutional requirement, yet I do so freely. There is no such thing as a "constitutional requirement".

Your belief is that birthright citizenship is not constitutional.

But BR citizenship being the current US law, that makes it's default standing constitutional until otherwise deemed not to be.

 

There are several threads on this topic in this forum.

That makes no logical sense.

 

I have a feeling America isn't getting Mexico's best and brightest.
The best and brightest don't illegally hop the border.
So who are we getting?

I have a feeling the U.S. is going to look more like Mexico, with a permanent underclass.
Maybe wealthy people having to worry about their own safety and kidnappings, which is the situation in Mexico.

Isn't it interesting that Mexico seems so happy to offload these people?
I mean, you'd think they might be complaining about a brain drain, or the U.S. stealing all their manpower and population, but no, they seem outright happy about the prospect.

 

Mostly dopers, gangsters and welfare anchors and some fruitpickers and human traffickers and some D voters. Sure not professionals like MDs..etc

 

I'm noticing the majority of the Latin American immigrant community near me have tattoos.
Is this really common in Mexico, or are we only getting a certain segment of their society?

 

No idea. look for gang ink. facial tatts scream MS 13 or just plain nuts.

 

I used to live in one community where half the Latin American chicks were pregnant.

We had a family friend, a fairly older man who had grown up in Mexico. He was very dignified and had a quiet reserve. He made sure to tell us he was Spanish Mexican, and heavily implying that his community in Mexico didn't share the same values with all the Mexicans we were seeing.

 

How much in higher taxes are you willing to pay to help support them? 10%.......15%......25%........40%? How much.

 

Given all the power the democrats have amassed, they'll keep up the giveaways until this country is in total chaos and bankruptcy and we're fighting each other in the streets for sewer rats to survive.

I mean the GOP obviously can't stop them, so who will?

Comey reportedly and arrogantly just made a joke of his hearing refusing to answer under advice of council. Why in the hell was he allowed to have lawyers in there? Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't hear any pulled before Mueller having lawyers. Supposedly if Trump had went that route with Mueller, he wouldn't have been allowed a lawyer either. So what's really going on here? And isn't Comey himself a lawyer? So a lawyer can have a lawyer present but not the president who has no law background?

Wake me when they actually get serious about indicting the left and not just wanting to play footsies and grandstand for publicity. You know like maybe having to testify before the Supreme court who can make them answer the questions and not just plead the fifth. Until that happens, this country will keep going down the crime syndicate crapper until there's nothing left. And don't look now but we're almost there.

 

CUBA TO SEND PRISONERS TO U.S.

That's' one way of emptying their prisons and getting rid of their bad apples. Déjà vu .

 

Comey was Attorney General and he can't defend himself?

 

Yup, my point exactly

 

Yeah definitely not all Spanish are this way. We have great Hispanics in this country who came legally and vote Republican. There are a lot of great border agents risking their lives everyday who came here legally. Even the Mayor and citizens of Tijuana can't stand the snakes rampaging the border illegally today and call them the dregs of society.

And now Nancy Pelosi says they will continue to fight the border wall. This while democrats will keep luring them who are unskilled and having to be carried and all for their votes.

People better wake up soon and realize Democrats are like a cancerous malignancy only working on their own agenda which is destroying the nation before it's too late. Trump is the only thing that's keeping the nation holding on. That's why the democrats are so desperate to get him impeached.

Again in the news today the wonderful LIBERAL 9th circuit upheld ruling to BLOCK Trump's travel ban.

Nefarious criminal activity that only serves their purpose and obstruction is all they know.

 

The Supreme Court cannot suspend the 5th amendment.

 

Obviously.but changes will have to be made SOON because the democrats are gaming the system using every loophole for their nefarious corrupt purposes that are always in line with giving the country away to outsiders. Ask yourself why ALL criminals aren't pleading the 5th and escaping penalty. Is it because for THEM, a judge or jury would rule against them anyway?

So either everyone wakes up and votes them out, there's a convention of states, or there's an all out uprising like what's happening in France or this country will be gone soon.

Think we can rule out the first one because there are far too many brainwashed libs hence the reason the dems picked up 40 seats in the house.

In after thought there may be one more chance but given all the loopholes in the law the democrats know how to sidestep, it probably won't work either.

The GOP could call for another special council to go after them. But don't look for that to happen from the slow walking foot dragging republican party. But should they wake up and decide to do this, they'll have a very short window before the dems get in, in Jan at which time they already said they will make it all go away. Then the statute of limitations will stop it forever before the GOP can retake office which of course is yet another law set up to harbor criminals.

 

Every accused criminal can plead the fifth.

You can only get off testifying against yourself or a spouse.

 

Yeah but my point is it never or rarely works for the average criminal hence the reason our prisons are full. But politicians do it and everything's dropped and it's business as usual. They even said Trump would never get away with it and would be impeached. Why is that? Double standards...above the law maybe? So, since that's the case, how do you bring these above the law types to justice?

Supreme court judges should hear the cases and in the end make a ruling based on the circumstantial evidence like they would in any peon court hearing. Let the slime plead the 5th and then base it fully on evidence...at least that would be something. As it is, they just plead the 5th and walk out.

 

The average uneducated immigrant does not progress very far beyond the nearest welfare office

 

I wish we could but with a democrat house I dont think any new laws will get passed

 

Looks like she hit the jackpot, skilfully leveraging and timing the whole "anchor-baby" ploy to perfection!

Behold -- another 'Latino' peasant, probably with no more than an elementary school education (if even that) outwits the entire United States Government! The uterus is mightier than the sword!

 

This would require a constitutional amendment

yes it does. US v Wong Kim Ark

no. It was a citizen the moment it was born on US soil.