Horse Paste Officially Horse Sh*t — Science

You're not sure how many times it has to be mentioned, so let me tell you: In order for idiots to have a CHANCE of understanding, it needs to be mentioned NON-STOP from now until the end of time! Sadly, even then they likely won't understand.

 

What is horse paste? How totally ignorant to call it that.

 

Why do you give a damn what medications doctors prescribe for their patients? It's not your damn business! I cannot think of anything more ignorant and nonsensical than somebody being behind or against a medicine for partisan tribal reasons.

 

Note the link used in the post I just responded to. Politifact.

Politifact is now telling doctors what medications they should use for their patients?

It goes both ways conservatives should not be pro Ivermectin for political reasons.

 

This is what Ivermectin looks like. It is a pill.



https://www.drugs.com/pro/ivermectin-tablets.html

For political reasons let's have a person who is not even trained to be a nurse's aide call it "horse paste".

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-19-ivermectin-horse-owners-struggle-demand-soars-2021-9

https://fortune.com/2021/09/02/ivermectin-covid-why-demand-is-surging/

https://www.keloland.com/keloland-c...take-horse-deworming-medication-for-covid-19/

https://www.wsls.com/news/2021/08/2...aking-horse-deworming-drug-to-treat-covid-19/

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2021...warns-against-use-humans-covid-19/5624127001/

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/n...er-as-people-seek-unproven-covid-19-treatment

 

Let me be perfectly clear. A person feels sick. They are tested positive for Covid or any infection or disease for that matter.

Their physician will decide the best treatment. Not Joy Behar. Not Whoppi. Not Tucker Carlson. Your doctor!

It is nobody else's business!

No sane and intelligent person should be emotionally for or against any medication or treatment. Take your derangement, your delusion and find some other cause to get behind or against. Ivermectin is not an official republican party medicine.

 

That is not what is prescribed to humans. You are being dishonest. It says on the label for horses only.

I'm curious what your medical background is. Please enlighten me and tell me why you are so fanatical and emotional over a medication. Whether a licensed physician prescribes to treat an illness is up to them. It is none of your business.

 

I would love for those who are super emotional over this medication to share their medical backgrounds and education. I would hope you are not getting your science from Whoopi.



"She's an amazing doctor"

 

I would love for the super medically trained people on this board to explain the science behind giving people a vaccine(Booster!) that was rejected by an FDA advisory panel by a 4-12 vote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...vid-boosters-limits-high-risk-groups-rcna2074

That is what the Biden administration did.

 

Because “doctors” who do not follow EBP. Evidence Based Practice are a disgrace to the profession and should be de registered. They would be here, and they have been here. This is not qbout politics it is ALL about the science

 

Isn't there a misinformation disclaimer at the top of this page? But an entire thread based on the misinformation that humans are taking "horse paste" is allowed.

 

I do not give a rats rectum about your political slant. I am interested primarily and solely in the science. Show me the research they based this decision on and while you are at it show how the emergence of variants have altered that opinion

 

Ivermectin was a scam. Some crooks set up an organisation to bilk people, and then suckered the gullible with BS. The gullible flocked to the website, where they got fleeced.

 

So what are your medical qualifications again?

I have been a licensed nurse since 1990. A nurse can refuse to give a med if they believe that is not in the best interest of a patient. What qualifications do you have to tell somebody they should not take this?

It is not up to you to decide if a medication is suitable for a patient. It is not your business and you can stop pretending you care for scientific reasons.

 

Right. Joe Biden science? You have the qualifications to tell some doctor which meds he should provide for a sick patient?

 

Really? Tell us what you know about this drug and why do you even have an opinion.

I'm thinking of sending your post to Merck who makes this drug. Their lawyers can give you a call.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2008/050742s022lbl.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/

 

Let us just say I have been trained and had many many years worth of experience reading analysing and critiquing medical research, which, given the paucity of same in your posts. I can comfortably say is more medical education than you have displayed so far.

If you are a nurse you would be familiar with EBP. Can you cite the commonly reference EBP sites and summarise the information on those sites in relation to Ivermectin? I mean I am happy to access my State online library to access BMJ, Clinicalkey, DynaMed, Micromedex etc if you would like me to. Or we can look at the Cochrane Library entry since it is available online
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full

Happy to cut and paste from those sources however you will be unable to verify the results unless you have equal access

 

Oh! Please do so! Merck no more wants their drug to be abused than I do. Be prepared to face the backlash though.

 

Neither is it within your scope of practice to be advocating for off label use of a medication online. Now YOU can tell ME, if you are a fully qualified Registered Nurse, what EBP is and how it is applied in practice because if you managed to get through university without knowing that basic fact then……..

Oh! And let me say I have been in the profession longer than you and you will be quite surprised as to MY role and qualifications however I value my privacy and have only disclosed what I do to a few.

 

You gave a like to a post that called the drug a scam. It is an FDA approved drug! It is a real medicine made by a real company. It did not come from Mira-lago.

I'm not advocating this drug for people can't you understand that? I have made myself clear in numerous posts. I do not believe in loving or hating a medicine for political reasons and that is exactly what you are doing. The thread OP is a lie the horse paste de wormer is not being used on humans for Covid.

It is none of your damn business what a licensed physician decides might be best for his or her patient. Stop pretending this is some deep concern about medical malpractice in America it is some cheap 5 year old politicalizing of a medicine.

 

For the 500th time I am NOT ADVOCATING ANYTHING!!!!! Please provide the direct quote where I have ever advocated people taking any medication. I'm a professional and I'm an adult. Not some mentally deranged person who politicizes medicine.

You cannot argue without lying? I have written about 10 posts saying that. I am not pro or con ivermectin and I think it is moronic and stupid for people to be that way.

 

yes it is a real medicine but using it to prevent/treat COVID is “off label” and NOT a approved by the FDA. Would you take an Antibiotic to treat hypertension?

well, you are doing a great job of convincing everyone else that is what you are trying to do. Even here in this paragraph you are alluding to the use of Ivermectin FOR COVID.

Now tell me is it listed in MIMS as a treatment for COVID? NO? How About Micromedex? No?
Let’s look shall we?

https://www-mimsonline-com-au.ap1.p...ch/QuickSearch.aspx&SearchType=&ID=90790001_2

So…..where does it say “can be used for COVID??

Tsk, tsk, tsk did your university not drill into you the role of nurse as a patient advocate?

 

Every second post on this thread you have been arguing in favour of use of ivermectin in COVID. There is no clinical evidence supporting its use in the treatment or prevention of Covid. Now I am more than happy to back MY claims and indeed have done so.

 

This is where the moderators should give us some leeway. Here is a poster who repeatedly misrepresents my opinion. That's called dishonesty. Lies?

On numerous occasions I have clearly, clearly as crystal stated that nobody should love or hate a medication for political reasons. In not one post have I advocated for Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid so why is she repeatedly saying I am? Even after I complained about this?

Go read my posts and tell me where I am a cheer leader for Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid. you will not find it. But I'm supposed to respect that poster's opinion when they keep claiming I am?