House GOP Wants to Eviscerate NASA Earth Sciences in New Budget

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  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being that it's been warming steadily, observable facts say you're parroting a denier religious fable there.

    There's a reason you're called deniers. It's because you deny the actual evidence, and create your own reality instead.

    Does this look like no warming to you? Don't worry, you can fall back on a "All the data is faked!" conspiracy theory now.

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  2. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I already refuted that with NASA's own charts and how they changed data, directly from their own source. Who knows where your pulling that crap from.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Real Climate, a warmist blog. This is a high quality site that presents the advocates case for anthropogenic global warming very well. The writers are climate scientists. The site as a know-it-all flavor and global warming skeptics are handled in a dismissive fashion.

    http://www.realclimate.org/

    Wikipedia Bans Real Climate Propagandist
     
  4. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A blog and Wikipedia?

    Oh My God.

    lol
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, though I am not a warmist, blogs are now the outlet of many scientists, especially important for those that differ from the political consensus and have no outlet due to the the billions spent on AGW and the political correctness that inhibits their publication in more mainstream peer review publications. I don't have a problem with blogs. Real Climate has an agenda, as does (un)Skeptical Science, the cartoonists blog, but there are individual blogs by scientists that counter the mainstream political meme and are important as a source of information.
     
  6. katzgar

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    more anti education from the right
     
  7. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    I think people are completely missing the point of the thread. Regardless of what you think about AGW, NASA shouldn't have anything to do with it. That is NOAAs area and putting money into to separate government entities to do the same exact thing is a clear waste of money. If you want them to continue AGW research than that should be done through NOAA and not NASA which is supposed to be looking to the stars. Get us to Mars dammit!
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    What you mean is closed minds from the left. Science proceeds even though you think it is settled. New questions arise and new information adds to the mix. For instance, CO2 sensitivity is not settled and is still hotly debated. It is open to debate as the current slowdown in warming shows.

    For instance:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B45V9V-NrtCIWndQVEk1dTNsRGs/view?pli=1
     
  9. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does that look like 2014 is the hottest year on record to you?
     
  10. katzgar

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not surprised that some think the agenda driven headlines are more important than the actual understanding of the science or how the headline is derived.

    There is concern NASA is encroaching on NOAA’s turf, that NOAA should do the climate research, and NASA should focus on space research. The alternative, that some of NOAA’s responsibilities and budget could be formally transferred to NASA, has also been discussed.
     
  12. TheTaoOfBill

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    You posted the US temperature. Why would the US temperature refute anything. If it's the source you question and you prefer NASA's charts then here you go:
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    That doesn't go up to 2014. This does.
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  14. Spooky

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    I think I would trust the advice from the head of NASA over yours.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19058588/ns/us_news-environment/t/nasa-chief-regrets-remarks-global-warming/#.VUTZQJVFDIU
     
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    Yes it does. Why lie? I had to backtrace your source image to find it.

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.ph...warming-trends-significant-or-paused-or-what/
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    Climate Science Communicating Climate Instrumental Record Reporting on climate skeptics

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    Followed by this image (fig 2)

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    It is crap like that that makes people skeptical.
     
  16. Kenneth Almquist

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    You are the only one discussing United States temperature data on this thread, so as Mamooth has already pointed out, you haven't "refuted" anything.

    I'll add that your post had an incredibly poor signal to noise ratio. The only information in your post--that the U.S. temperature data was revised--could have been stated in one sentence. To put that information in context, you might have linked to this FAQ or to this explanation of the adjustments applied to the U.S. data and this explanation of additional adjustments.
     
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    Funny, the liberals are the ones removing funding from NASA in order to give it to black rioters and illegal aliens.
     
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    Let my clue you dummies in.

    We need to cut EVERYWHERE... we have a $17,000,000,000,000 National Debt.

    Besides NASA is about Muslim relations now.
     
  19. Spooky

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    So you are admitting that NASA had faulty data even though when they first released it they swore it was a scientific fact?

    But now you believe them because they are saying, well, that its a scientific fact?

    You are very gullible.

    lol
     
  20. TheTaoOfBill

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    If the article was from Dec 2014 then they would not have included it because they do not have the full average temperature for 2014 yet. Present in this case means 2013. Nothing in your source says they used 2014 in the data. That's you making assumptions. I gave you the chart with 2014 included.
     
  21. mamooth

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    If you could argue against what people actually say -- that is, if all the data didn't contradict your conspiracy cult -- you wouldn't have to always invent these wild stores about what people really said.

    That's the #2 reason why the world laughs at the denier cult, its dishonesty.

    The #1 reason, of course, is that the denier cult's science stinks so badly.

    The world has already passed by the denier conspiracy cult, leaving it by the side of the road in a cloud of dust, shaking its fist at the sky. Posting cult conspiracy theories on a message board is all the cultists can do now. Ahead of them, their slow fade into oblivion, and the footnote in history comparing them to other conspiracy cults.
     
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    Itsaid CURRENT as of dec 2014 and the figure below it using the same dataset showed it through 2014 specifically as opposed to fig one which showed decades to CURRENT.

    Lies and ignorance are not the way to turn this around.
     

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