How about a new abortion law

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by logical1, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Ndividual

    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    It should be required THE father be identified on EVERY birth record.
     
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    Ironic that the same people opposed to abortion are also opposed to sex education that would actually teach people how to use condoms properly and thus reduce abortions.
     
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    I agree. And perhaps even a law criminalizing parenting more than one child by anyone who is incapable of providing financial support for them/and the mother.
    No government aid to anyone who does not provide the name of the father of all children who would be a basis of any aid, allowing family services to place the children in protective custody until such time the father(s) can be identified and genetically confirmed.
     
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    Sounds exactly like the kind of legislation the Communist Chinese would enforce.
     
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    The directions are on the back of the package.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Really, how do you arrive at that?
     
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    No we can uwe civil coericion as in a fine or community work if reptitive the children go for adoption even forced long term BC. Let monetary fines accunulate while the childbis being raised and then paid back later in the mothers lifetime. Thise details can be worked out.
    What are you suggesting nothing?
     
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    Go educate yourself whats stopping you?
     
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    It is a FETUS that is aborted NOT a baby...
     
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    So you want a law FORCING women ( Anti-Choicers FAVORITE thing, FORCING WOMEN ) to divulge the name of their kid's father...

    ..even though it's no one's business.....


    :) YOU won't get your way......it won't happen but I'm sure you'll dream on about it...
     
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    :) That's how Anti-Choicers view the world...if those "foreigner Commies" do something it's bad but if the Anti-Choicers do it that makes it OK....It's an ancient American ego thing...mixed with stupidity..
     
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    "Logical1: "The left loves new laws" So this RIGHTY proposes what ? A NEW LAW. :roll::roflol:

    The adage about pot , kettle , black applies but certainly not "logic " in any form.

    It's the right that has introduced and passed more and MORE laws against women and abortion but HEY, if your head's in a bucket how would you know !!

    But it's so typical for the right to consider ANYTHING they do as OK but the exact same thing done by someone they don't like is "bad".
     
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    Why?
     
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    In the height of passion how many people stop and read the directions?

    The failure rate in reality indicates that they have other things on their minds.
     
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    Because of their past record of onerous government regulations WRT reproduction.
     
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    Anti-abortionists are opposed to sex education.

    Anti-abortionists are the ones who wants to eliminate abortions so if they want to reduce them then taking proactive steps like education would be the appropriate thing that normal and reasonable people would be prepared to undertake to achieve their goal.
     
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    I'm all for you educating yourself and educating kids about how babies are created and the dangers of sexually transmitted diseases. I don't know many prolife who do not.
     
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    Because they LIKE Big Government and more laws if it oppresses and takes rights away from those they don't approve of.
     
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    \Hmmmmm Catholic Church??

    No, serviously - part of education is knowing there are methods of contraception that do not rely on abstinence

    Which means the entire religious right is also in the "keep them in the dark" group
     
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    So, are we now going to have the condom police?

    98% is still 2 women per 100 having an unwanted pregnancy

    Guess what is the major reason for abortion?

    Unwanted pregnancy
     
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    Agree, and the law is set up to make him pay child support and take some responsibilities. This is what I have found with young women. Most won't turn him in. The little he pays and does, I was told, is enough for them.
     
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    If the father is not identified by DNA, which should be mandatory in any dispute by the claimant who says whom the father is, signing the birth certificate at the time of birth is the normal way to determine who the father is. He may not be the biological father, but all he needs to do is sign that certificate and it's over as far as courts are concerned.
     
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    I think we have had education for at least two or three generations and the abortion numbers are still in the millions per year.
     
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    There must be a way to verify use, or they cannot have an abortion, even if they pay for it themselves, which is part of the goal. Most who are against abortions do not want to pay for them, either. I can't blame them. It is partly their money and a mortal sin, which will condemn them to hell for eternity. Can you find it in your heart to blame them?

    Verifying use would be so much easier, if they used subdermal injections or IUDs like Marena or however it is spelled. The tee shaped ones that are inserted into the opening of the uterus and have a small string to pull them out later, all done by a doctor.
     
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    There really is not reason to fight against these ideas. They are no more invasive of privacy than having an abortion. They are less strain on the psyche and on the body, too.
     

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