How Do I Explain This?

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  1. Keynes

    Keynes Well-Known Member

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    I just got off the phone with a friend of my girlfriend's. She is not one of my favorite people by any means. One of these Daddy's little girl entitled princesses...need I say more? Told her father she wanted nothing to do with the family business, had everything handed to her, got out in the real world and realized she actually had to take responsibility for her actions, ran back to daddy and had inherited the business within six months. Now her favorite way to start any sentence is,"As a business owner..." You could say, "What's the weather supposed to do today." Her response: "Well, as a business owner..." So, why did I talk to her? Because my girlfriend wasn't there and she was in tears and I am an old softie.

    Apparently, she had gone to a chamber of commerce meeting and, "they wouldn't even listen to me. They ignored me and wouldn't let me say anything and when I did they just talked right over me. It's like they didn't respect me as a business owner." And, very gently, (I am actually pretty proud of myself for this) I said, "Well, I am sure they don't respect you as a business owner. What you have to remember is that a lot of these people you're going to be dealing with actually had to build their business. They started with nothing, and I mean literally nothing - no savings,no help from mom and dad...nothing.And over the course of 20, 30, 40 and even 50 years they slowly built something. Then you walk in and for no other reason than but by the grace of fluke luck, who your parents are, you now have what they've had to dedicate a significant portion of their lives to attain. You haven't taken the risk they have, you haven't put in the work they have, you haven't put in the time they have so no, you're not going to have their respect because quite frankly you don't deserve it."

    Her only response was to wail, "What do you mean? I'm a business owner tooo!" I said, "Well, Kermit the Frog has a Ph.D from the University of Maryland...it doesn't I'd trust him to help me do my thesis." I tried to explain it in a variety of ways. The best way I could come up with was, "Well, you know how there are transgender people? You know, they might be born a man but self-identify as a woman? Ok...yeah, you self-identify as a business owner...but when it comes right down to it...you're not. There's a lot of things daddy can buy you but respect isn't one. You're just going to have to work hard to earn it."

    Any advice you can give to me on how I can explain to this little girl (and I don't care how old she is, she is a little girl) that she is not, in reality, a business owner?
     
  2. MRogersNhood

    MRogersNhood Banned

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    Not a clue.Glad I'm me and not you :roflol:
    Good Luck though.I hope somehow you find that ace-in-the hole right thing to say but..oh boy.
    Maybe get your GF in on it ;)
     
  3. Keynes

    Keynes Well-Known Member

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    I thought you would appreciate this. That friend of my girlfriend's called me again and said she was going to "walk in there and tell them I am [her father's] daughter and they are not going to treat me that way." Instinctively I said, "Oh, yeah...give THAT a try..." Well...she did. You can imagine what happened. She's mad at me now. But maybe she won't call me anymore.
     
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    All better. You didn't need to have a relationship with her anyway
     
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    You can't fix stupid.
     
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    Thats five minutes of my life wasted.....
     
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    The trouble is she owns a business. How she got it is almost completely immaterial to that fact. Right now I'm assuming that while she owns it some one who actually knows his/her ass from a hole in the ground is in charge of the day to day operations and strategic planning. She may own the business but she doesn't no straight up from boo about running a business. And that is the real issue.
     
  8. Keynes

    Keynes Well-Known Member

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    She is why I appreciate so much the following line(s) from one of my favorite John Wayne movies, McClintock.

    "Becky! Come here. Somethin' I ought to tell you. Guess now's as good a time as any. You're going to have every young buck west of the Missouri around here tryin' to marry you - mostly because you're a handsome filly, but partly because I own everything in this country from here to there. They'll think you're going to inherit it. Well, you're not. I'm going to leave most of it to, well, to the nation really, for a park. That way no lumbermen'll cut down all the trees for houses with leaky roofs. Nobody'll kill all the beaver for hats for dudes or murder the buffalo for robes. Some folks are gonna say I'm doin' all this so I can sit up in the hereafter and look down on a park named after me, or that I was disappointed in you - didn't want you to get all that money. But the real reason, Becky, is because I love you, and I want you and some young man to have what I had, because all the gold in the United States Treasury and all the harp music in heaven can't equal what happens between a man and a woman with all that growin' together. I can't explain it any better than that.
     
  9. Keynes

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    No one forced you to read it.
     
  10. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The advice I would give is for you to stop posting these pretend conversations that you have. They are always the same drivel. It is as if once per month you decide to post the same thing over and over and over. It is a colossal waste of everyones time.
     
  11. Keynes

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    Hit a little too close to home? Maybe shake up the idea that "if someone's rich they've earned it" or maybe not that as much as it might mean if someone's poor it doesn't mean they're too lazy or too stupid. Cognative dissonance is hell.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has nothing to do with hitting too close to home, it is all about this nonsense being repeated ad nauseam. Its always the same lady. Its essentially the same story, with different fake cheesy lines being attributed to you. If all these stories were true, she would have stopped being around you 15 stories ago.
     
  13. Keynes

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    I wonder how interested you would be if I told you I had a friend who was complaining about her minimum wage job and I told her she wasn't worth more than minimum wage, that she needed to get off her ass, work harder, and then she could get a better job. My guess is you'd probably enjoy those a little better?

    Your annoyance is simply hypocrisy...it's not what you want to hear so you don't like it.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That too would be a colossally boring conversation to hear about, and ALSO not worthy of starting a thread. Especially after hearing the 10th iteration of the same story. My annoyance has absolutely nothing to do with whether I agree with your premise, it is all about the redundancy.
     
  15. Keynes

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    So, if that's true why even read my threads much less comment several times on them?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because I don't have your name committed to memory. I comment on them because I enjoy exposing the lunacy behind posting essentially the same thing in thread after thread after thread.
     
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    Ok,I don't doubt you had this conversation-I don't like the fact that she was talked over & shown no respect,however,a lot depends on how she presented herself,if she came off condescending & her being more important than any other business owner there,you have to give respect in order to get respect,perhaps that was what was missing---
    I do agree that when something is given to you as opposed to working for it-there is a different mindset---
    Just yesterday,the lady I work for,her son got grants & a scholarship(which her son was to lazy to do the work for himself to get these grants(she tried to get me to do them,(she hired another person to do them)to go to UNR-everything was all set for him to begin classes starting in middle of August--he decided yesterday he didn't want to go to UNR--lost the grants,lost the scholarships,to him it was no big deal--(-rich privileged children)if he had gone through the work of getting the grants like I encouraged him to do,he would have appreciated the opportunity that he was given--Heavy sigh!!!!
     
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    And I enjoy exposing the lunacy that she thinks she's earned the right to call herself a business owner...or that she's earned anything else in life for that matter. I also enjoy pointing out the fact that she's everything that is wrong with this country.
     
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    The problem is that every story about this same woman is the same topic but always a different conversation and her being shocked that you would say such a thing, which shows that it is a figment of your imagination. Why present a figment of your imagination as reality ? Can you not argue your same viewpoint without making up a fictional story ?
     
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    The reason it's the same story is because she never learns. Her sense of entitlement runs that deep.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The notion that she continues to have conversation with you about people not respecting her "business ownerdom", knowing full well that you will always have the same response but with different wording, and that every time she is shocked by what you are saying, shows that your story is a lie. It never happened. Overwhelmingly likely "she" doesn't even exist, and beyond any shadow of a doubt your story never happened. On top of that, you use diff posting names to start these threads.

    Some people are born into money and others are not. Get over it. All any of us can do is to play the hand that we are dealt. Incessant whining and fabricated stories are not going to change that reality.
     
  22. Keynes

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    I've been doing a lot of thinking and soul-searching...and you know, maybe I have the whole idea of inheritance all wrong. See, I've done some research and it turns out my great-grand father retired a captain in the United States Marine Corps many years ago. Now, that's kind of like starting a business. He worked very hard and took a lot of risk to get that commission and attain that rank. Why, upon retiring, should he have to give it up? Shouldn't he be able to do whatever he wants with his captaincy? Like, saaaaay...giving it to a relative...me for example. Now, as I said, that was many years ago so the way I see it, with interest, I could be a major by now. SO here's what I am going to do. I am going to buy a Marine Corps officer's uniform (with the rank of major) and I am going to wear it everywhere I go. I'll start off every sentence with, "Well, as an officer in the United States Marine Corps..." AND when I go onto a military base and start barking out orders, everybody better listen to me...because, you know, my great-grandfather was a marine...and he taught me stuff that people whose great-grandathers weren't marines didn't teach them so that makes me qualified to be an officer...you know, just like people who inherit businesses have parents who teach them things that other parents don't teach their kids and that makes them qualified to run a business. How far do you think that would fly?
     
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    I finally got my point across. I e-mailed this to her.
    Business Owner.jpg
     

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