How do we prevent these mass shootings?

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Are you suggesting people from the united states are able to smuggle firearms into the united kingdom with ease? That the effectiveness of your laws is contingent upon no one making an attempt at violating them?
     
  2. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I don't trust your view on this. So, let's just disagree.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not an opinion, unless you don't believe the FBI database and crime mapping.

    "Gun nut" central is Plano, TX. Look at their murder rate.
     
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    An even better question is why, if they had access to guns, would mean they murder with them.

    It's not the guns coming in thats the problem, it's the would-be murderers that want to use them.
     
  5. Johnny-C

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    It is the picture YOU paint from YOUR interpretation of facts.

    I wasn't born yesterday; others who are (even) experts, do NOT agree with your view. So, I'm going to take that into consideration. Your words here... do not 'trump' each and every other view I have taken in.

    It's as simple as that.
     
  6. dairyair

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    We need to handle those with ADHD or mental issues differently. I don't know the solution either, but just drugging them isn't working and some may stop taking the drugs and cause the problem.
     
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    burn the constitution, close the borders completely and full cavity searches at every airport
     
  8. GeorgiaAmy

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    No.
    Americans have NO desire to be more European.
     
  9. GeorgiaAmy

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    There is some crazy that cannot be fixed. A packing populous with permits to carry concealed, legally obtained gets my vote.

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    Examples? What meds?
     
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    These drugs are not physically addictive and don't cause withdrawal.
    If your on psych meds, chances are you weren't right prior to getting prescribed psych meds.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    Some of what they are doing is right. We aren't talking about being "European"... only learning from them.

    (BTW, you cannot speak here for ALL Americans.)

    And about 90% of Americans DO want stronger restrictions on firearms.
     
  13. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    And in some cases, the prescribed medication may actually be causing the problems. If the united states did not have a medicate first policy for everyone showing the least little signs of not being perfectly adjusted mentally, perhaps these incidents would be far less likely to occur.
     
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    You can't stop imperfections in an imperfect world. There is not an epidemic considering the size of our population. IMO, this situation would have been far less severe if others in that situation had been armed. The only problem here is the liberal mindset. There is no Utopia. There will always be nuts and guns. Bigger government is not a solution to anything.
     
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    Withdrawal, as in what is experienced when a drug addict can no longer get high, is not at issue. It is the chemical imbalance the drug, or the lack thereof, can cause in the patient.

    You assume far too much.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-ro...olino/the-prescribing-of-psycho_b_665838.html

     
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    What's simple, is the fact that 13% do 50+% of the crime. If you refuse to believe the FBI statistics thats your choice, but it flies in the face of reality.
     
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    blacks aren't responsible for 50% of crime.

    many crimes they do much less than 50%.
     
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    Agreed. We have far too many people prescribed these medications, or we have some serious quantities of people from children to adults with mental problems of some sort, whether depression, hyperactivity, attention deficit, or any number of more severe psychological problems. And the side effects of many of the medications like prozac and zoloft are scary, including warnings to "seek medical attention" if you experience thoughts of suicide (or harming others).
     
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    It is never going to be zero. It is you who isn't being realistic. The only profitable step we have left in this regard is to get the feds out of the welfare business and start engaging in policies that will real restore the black family to where it was before LBJ's Great Society reforms destroyed it. That alone would do more to lower the murder rate in this country and reduce the number of black lives taken by cops in the line of duty than anything blacklivesmatter has yet suggested. It would also serve to prevent the same disasters from befalling Latino and Caucasian families.
     
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    the more yo try to stop people from doing something, the more theyre going to want to do it. dont tell them they wont with a "no guns" sign, tell them they cant with a hollow point.
     
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    correct that mental illness real quick
     
  22. Johnny-C

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    You're here again... seeking to obfuscate/distort truth. See ya'. I'm done with you.
     
  23. Johnny-C

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    I used the word "mitigate", for a reason.

    I'm done wasting time explain reality to you.

    Goodbye, garyd.
     
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    In other words, a subset of the people that have clinical depression that is severe enough where they seek medical attention for that condition, might have the potential to have thoughts of suicide. This is shocking to you ?
     
  25. guttermouth

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    they are 13% of the population so they should be doing only 13% of the crime. if you check the fbi website theyre doing at least 20-55%% in every category.
     

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