How do you feel about tattooed people?

it's not, it has to find balance between uniformity and personal expression...uniformity of the group is important to the military, the unit must behave as one cohesive entity...but social belonging/membership/acceptance is also important to the group...tattoos are social identifiers for the group...then there the practical aspect, in a volunteer force the military would lose out on many qualified members if it banished tattoos ...with so many young people inking themselves today how many recruits do you think they'd lose? How many members would be forced to resign?

 

Just because SOME people who get tattoos for attention seeking, doesn't mean ALL people are like that. I know many introverts AND extroverts who have tattoos. It's not even a big deal. How is it interfering with your daily life? Because you have to look at it? Well, don't look at it. The world owes you nothing. There might be some people out there who don't like your haircut or style of clothing. So guess what, buddy? Better go change because you just might offend somebody.

 

It's an attention seeker for the majority of others as the links demonstrated. Yes, it varies just like there is a difference between someone who saves a few jars and someone who belongs on an episode of "Hoarders".

It doesn't until you try to legislate me into accepting it such as forcing me or others to hire people with tattoos.

You are correct, the "world owes you nothing". Stop trying to force people to accept your decisions. If I don't like them, that's my choice, not yours and vice-versa.

 

You gave me a good laugh, and for that, I must thank you. No one is forcing you, but you shouldn't treat people with tats unfairly just because they have a little bit of ink on their skin. How would you like to be treated that way?

Decisions? I've made none. I believe you mean opinions. If you don't like them, that's fine, but I'll never understand the logic behind it, just like you'll never understand my logic.

 

You're welcome!

 

Of course there are limits, if I see someone with SS, 88, a swastika or MS13 visible I want them to stay well clear of me...the content tells me all I need to know about them...

 

Well with the downsizing, I dont think force size is an issue. But I know young men that were considering enlisting, that have decided against it and cite the tattoo rules as being a reason.

 

Not necessarily; it all depends on the type of person and personality you're dealing with. Not everyone is going to show their opinions or beliefs down your throat. The same can be said with other things, such as religion.

 

LOL! Actually people who make assumptions of others without seeking to know the truth is indicative of no class. That you can spin however you like, but you can't get away from the truth of it.

 

I bet most those guys with tattoo got them when in the service
and on shore leave. Which WAS a normal thing for Vets when on leave
in WWII.

 

they may not shove their beliefs down my throat but an avowed racist who visible expresses his hate for others is not someone I want to be around....at one time I had to work in association with a former nazi/ hitler youth member( he had no tattoos that i saw )and was a repulsive human being... MS-13, yeah stay well clear of those people as well...

 

Unfortunately, we will always have a bad few ones in a bunch. This applies is just about every situation, whether it be tat-related or not.

 

What's your point? Where did Caroline Kennedy or Mary Bono get theirs while serving their country? What difference does it make when or where they got them? You asked for one example and I gave you many, including CEOs and politicians. Now you're grasping for anything to hold onto.

 

if you read the Forbes magazine article I linked to earlier it states attitudes are changing in the corporate world, talent is more important than personal adornment, they don't want to pass up on talent because of a tattoo...

another site I came across for the military stated the same thing, good recruits are hard to find and they try accommodate personal adornment as much as possible...

What many tattoo haters don't seem to realize is not only are they old and either out of the work force or soon to leave(if not die), their entire generation just like them is doing the same...the corporate, political and military environments are being run by a younger generation that has a different outlook on life than the out going boomer generation...in 15 yrs the last of the boomers will be out of the work force and no longer running the country, our society will be a very different place...

 

agreed, 99.99% of the time a tattoo tells little about the person good or bad, its just a tattoo...

 

You defend Tattoo as if Animate Objects. Which of course speaks
to a total lack of any training in the Humanities.
Even Cartoon characters are animate.
Tattoo are just ... well immobile inanity. If a Tattoo does have meaning it is
usually self-inflicted.

 

Iam 51, maybe not "old". But young enough to see what a person is all about vs what they tats they have. As long as they dont have something truly stupid on them where its easy to see. I dont care.

 

BS. It says a lot about the person or do you truly believe people just have tattoos inked to their body willy-nilly like grabbing the closest pair of underwear out of a drawer?

 

Yea, my father dying of a heart attack and my mother of cancer were "self inflicted". Is that why I have memorial tats of them? Or how about the American flag behind a bald eagle? Is having pride in country "self inflicted"?

 

51, you're the last of the boomer generation, I'm 61right in the middle...
I've seen some what I think are poor choices but not everyone has the same taste in art work(lots of people bought those neon velvet mexican paintings) and its not my skin or my business and I dont judge them for it...art is subjective...

 

OMG ... Bee 4 Real. Every kid growing up in my Era knew thru movies
and such that Soldiers on shore leave or R & R had a habit of getting
a tattoo.In fact look just look at the History of where tattoo parlors
tended to be. In places of Port or Red Light Districts.Favorite stomping
grounds for horny solders on leave.

 

thats interesting that you mention that...if you go to regions where tribal groups still apply traditional tattoos its for the same reasons....honoring family, tribe, clan, group, accomplishments, rights of passage, or just simple adornment...its a visual statement of who you are and where you belong...

 

Sorry for your losses, but tattoos are silly memorials. Spending the money, or better yet, volunteering for organizations that help or prevent heart disease and cancer is a much better legacy than showing your tats to others.

As for having pride in our country, how long did you serve in the military or public service?

 

The original question is too broad and vague.
There isn't a one-size-fits-all answer, because there isn't a one-size-fits-all tattoo wearer.


There are service members who have traveled the world, and who have picked up tasteful, unique, incredible ink on their upper arms as a result.
They demonstrate their allegiance to the adventure and sacrifice of the life of military service (and their team-mates) by getting the appropriate tats.
I find this to be understandable and admirable.

There are hard-core bikers who have ridden hard in motorcycle clubs, and who demonstrate their allegiance to the club (and their bro's) by getting the appropriate tats.
I find this to be understandable and palatable.

There are men and women who have a vision, and an associated symbol.
This vision and this symbol mean a LOT to them, and they find it difficult to articulate that passion in a poem, a novel, a painting, or a sculpture.
They HAVE to have it etched into their flesh, forever, so that their vision and symbol become part of them for all times.
I find this to be understandable and palatable.

And then there are the posers and rudderless suburbanites who feel a need to mar their flesh, all in order to fit in with a pack of other such misguided simpletons.
They will stand in a tattoo shop and peruse a book of hundred of designs, and pick one out in a moment of whimsy, hoping this this particular design will make them appear unique and special.
Cool.
Admirable, hopefully.
I find this to be incomprehensible and vaguely sad.

Does that answer the original question?
I can go on and on, really I can.

 

Back in my Day Tattoo's were seen one of 2 ways.
Either the White Collar way { Wouldn't dare think of having a Tattoo }
Or the Blue Collar way where it is acceptable.But only for those
who were in the Service.Unlike Today.
In the White Collar community Tattoo's were stigmatized.
It instantly branded one as a Loser.
In the Blue Collar community Tattoo were not nearly as stigmatized.
I don't think I have ever seen a Doctor,Banker,Lawyer or Priest with
a Tattoo.
Where I have seen many Bakers and Butchers and Builders
with Tattoo.
One could make the case it goes with the territory.
I wouldn't expect to Find a nice bottle of fine wine in a trailer park
but would in a upper class neighborhood.
Know what to expect.
I don't expect intelligent people to think some branding as in a Tattoo
is going to do anything for their I.Q. or career.
Whereas those of the lower stations in life, Do Find that a Tattoo seems to
build their popularity.
This may seem uppity of me,but that is the way I was brought up.
I wasn't brought up to seek the lowest common denominator.
But the Highest denominator.
Tattoo do nothing but lower one's overall worth.
It's like a really good Italian Salami that some marketing guy feels
needs a real boost.So they paint the Salami and mark it all up with
lettering and impressive origin.
This really shouldn't be that difficult.
Tattoo are popular because our Society has effectively been dumbed
down.What else explains Obama being Re-elected.Obama's worth as
a leader and someone dedicated to fixing this country's ills ?
Bee 4 Real.