How do you view people of the opposing party?

Full disclosure: I'm NOT a Republican... more a 'Libertarian' than anything else, but am currently unaffiliated with any party.

Nevertheless, because of the way the choices were presented, and especially after the dreadful truths about a whole battery of Democrat presidential candidates were revealed during this week's 'debates', I voted:

* I View them with disdain, More Issues divide us than unite us - I am a Republican

They make it clear a rainwater now that they want totally open borders, with no enforcement of immigration laws whatsoever. They want to squander what precious funding we have on healthcare for ILLEGAL ALIENS, too!

To hell with whole America-hating pack of these bastards. The radical Democrat Party has become a deadly DISEASE, and it will ultimately kill the United States if we elect any of the hyperliberal slime-bag candidates we've seen swimming up in the Democrat toilet this week!

. This would have been a great place for an asteroid the size of a Mack truck to land!

 

Not a Republican, I left the party in 2016, or as so many Democrats are saying these days, the party left me. I view the Democrats as idiots at best (AOC) and evil at worst (Obama & Hillary). I do not want to destroy them, but I do want to take away their power to do evil, whether accidentally or intentionally.

 

The two sides are wildly different in this area. It's common to see Trump fans wishing death upon their political opponents, along with wishing mass death on large segments of humanity, but you rarely see liberals doing it. The Trump cult trains the cultists to hate.

 

I look at them in my rearview mirror.

 

I have no party but view Republicans as ignorant and corrupted whereas Dems are impotent and pathetic.

 

Wishing for an 'asteroid' is one thing, but deliberately sabotaging, subverting, and undermining the immigration laws of the United States is far more than mere 'wishing', Mamooth.... For reasons that I still cannot understand at all, radical Democrats are hell-bent on getting as many illegal aliens in here as they possibly can by leveraging liberal federal judges to hammerlock law enforcement agencies, by leveraging as many 'asylum' scams as possible, and even by completely breaking the law -- creating 'sanctuary cities' and 'sanctuary states' to give illegal aliens the ability to stay here indefinitely, and to make it impossible to GET THEM OUT!

It has now approached the point where I could support Trump declaring a national emergency and putting armed U. S. military forces on the border with orders to shoot to kill. We are being overrun -- and the rotten, stinking, damned Democrats are ALLOWING this to happen everywhere they have control!

I finally realized it this week -- the Democrat Party is now a lethal DISEASE! I've changed my vote -- the Democrat Party is now an ENEMY!

 

The opposition party is just that opposition. Idealistically, they have their own ideas on what’s best for the country.

 

I agree. Liberals work at common sense and good morality, knowing that you can't just merely wish for such things.

What you're demonstrating is how the hardcore The Trump cultists didn't start out as violent psychopaths. A steady diet of cult propaganda brainwashed them into becoming violent psychopaths.

And note that I'm not screaming conservatives should be exterminated. Most conservatives are quite pleasant, if a bit misguided. It's only the lunatic fringe, the hardcore Trump cult, that has an obvious problem. And note how I still don't wish any harm to come to that lunatic fringe, even though they openly wish death on me.

 

It's not "cult propaganda", mamooth. The heads of the agencies responsible for border security, immigration, and law enforcement have made it crystal-clear that they are being OVERRUN -- and your faction blithely looks the other way, or blames it all on Trump supporters. Your faction does everything it can to defeat rule of law, application of long-standing rules applying directly to immigration, to set up 'sanctuary cities', 'sanctuary states', and to fight with Federal authorities when they try to get rid of these illegal invaders! WHY?! Why would any sane American citizen do this?!

And, tell us, mamooth, by the wildest stretch of the imagination, HOW could any of this monstrous tragedy be blamed on Trump supporters?!

 

There still is a very big difference between how I feel about republicans as a class and how I feel about a specific subset that dominates now, but its getting harder and harder to separate the two any more. I am getting to the point where I have serious trouble with those that stay in Trump's party, hoping he'll just go away eventually without them fighting him now.

 

they're not americans unless they're legal... illegals have no right to political opinions...

 

Sure it is. There's no immigration crisis. You were told that over and over to make you scared and obedient, and it worked.

Fantasy on your part, but you believe it without question, because it's on FOX every night.

Which particularly tragedy are you wailing about now? I honestly have no idea. Remember, we don't have a cult telling us what to wet ourselves over, so we have no idea what you're panicking about at any given instant.

 

It is clear from your baffling post that you have absolutely no understanding of what is happening on our borders during the invasion of our country by hundreds of thousands of aliens, 'migrants', and others who are just barging in here. Because there is nothing we can even agree that the REALITY of this situation consists of, there is no point in continuing a discussion between us at all.

One word of advice -- don't trust me, or any news media outlet, of either the Left or the Right. Instead, watch, listen to, and read the reports and comments from the personnel who are actually working in our border control agencies and immigration departments. Then, after doing that for a while, if you still think it is all an illusion, you may want to schedule some mental health 'counciling'. It can be a dangerous thing to one's own personal safety and well-being to be so delusional....

 

I find it rather telling that not one single republican sees a democrat as a "Fellow American", and the majority sees democrats as the enemy of the people.

 

Do you find it just as "telling" that the ever-increasingly radical Democrat Party feels the same way about those of us on the Conservative Right?! Hint: ANTIFA....

These unctuously self-approving, America-hating hyperliberal Democrats castigate anyone who cherishes law, order, national sovereignty and borders, the Constitution, and all the principles and practices we lived by in this country when America WAS great!

They want us mired in the self-devouring, parasitic practice of Socialism and an endless hateful political civil war because of issues like 'slavery' which were remedied many decades ago. The extol all the virtues of 'political correctness' while seeing nothing wrong with 'Peter robbing Paul' because 'Peter' wants to sit on his useless ass, doing nothing but pawing on his smartphone, and telling 'Paul' to support him -- the Socialist paradise!

What real American can look at that kind of Leftist faction and not be thoroughly alarmed and disgusted?! People like that ARE a 'clear and present danger' to every good thing in this country! Far more than anybody in 'Russia' today, these hyperliberal Leftists ARE an 'enemy of the people'....

 

Hint: You've fallen for cult propaganda so completely that you're now totally detached from reality.

And we don't hate you for that. We pity you, yes. Your cult has made you miserable. They say they're the only ones that can save you from the crisis they invented, and that ensures your devotion.

We do understand the danger that your violent and unstable authoritarian cult poses to normal people. That's why we watch you closely, to limit the damage you can do to the USA and to individuals.

 

Just a thought ... how about we stop viewing others as democrats or republican?.

 

Thank you for your concern, Mamooth... it is touching, really. I hope I won't disappoint you too much by saying that nothing has made me miserable at all except for the ravening pack of hyenas we see among radical Democrats today -- and because I can limit my exposure to them as much as I wish, they're no great threat to my undercurrent of happiness.

As far as being "authoritarian" goes, you've really got people like me wrong. I'm all for people having the freedom to do whatever they like, so long as they don't break the law or create obnoxious, disgusting situations that others have to endure against their will. Hell, I even voted for legalization of recreational marijuana in the very first state to do so -- Colorado! Does that harmonize with your image of some kind of jackbooted, whip-cracking Nazi...?! I just want every body to support themselves and make their own way in life... just like I have had to do.....

Do whatever you like, and enjoy or suffer the consequences of doing whatever it is you do -- just make sure it's legal, and the you pay for it. Oh, and KEEP YOUR LEFTIST, WANNA-BE, PARASITIC SOCIALIST HANDS OUT OF MY POCKETS! See how easy it is to get along? I'm sure your faction is more than willing to meet us half-way... right...?

. "Dude! Try this 'Space Dawg'... it'll knock your ass down!"

 

Excellent suggestion! At this juncture, we should be viewing ourselves primarily as Conservatives and Liberals. There are, of course, many other "shades of gray", but those are to two main polarities.... Me? After being a lifelong registered Republican, I quit the party two years ago because it had become INFESTED with RINO's (Republicans-in-name-only). Now, if anything, I'm Libertarian-esque....

 

As you cheer sending children to concentration camps, that's clearly not true. History is already putting your kind in the same category as the "good Germans."

Given the parasitical nature of the red states, that's funny, Trump followers are screaming about how unjust it is that they're only getting most of the welfare, instead of all of it.

And by the way, everyone is a socialist, unless you're paying for you own fire department. Everyone likes socialism to some extent, it's just a matter of the degree. That means using "socialist" as an insult is rather stupid.

So, did your masters inform you that immigrants have a much lower crime rate than citizens?

https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says

Makes your anti-immigrant hysteria look rather stupid, wouldn't you say?

So, now that you know your masters lied to you, again, will you still remain as loyal to them?

 

Do you know the difference between socialism, and societal pool?

 

First you accuse me of immersing myself in "cult propaganda", and now you claim that I "cheer sending children to concentration camps". How is it even possible to have a conversation with someone whose mind is cast as yours obviously is...? And that takes us full-circle, Mamooth, back to the thread topic: "How do you view people of the opposing party?"

I've said that I support the idea of freedom for all American citizens, and that that entails freedom from an intrusive, smothering central government that "robs Peter to pay Paul" (i.e., the Welfare State). You respond by claiming that "we are all socialists", and imply that because I don't subscribe to this unconstitutional theory, I'm under the influence of "masters" of some kind.

Here is the center of the problem, Mamooth, and I don't know what we can do about it now. We, Left and Right, have come to hold extraordinarily different sets of fundamental beliefs concerning who and what we are as a people and as a nation. I would prefer that we hold EXCLUSIVELY to Rule of Law, the Constitution, and its Amendments! If you want something else, and can't live with the Law, and the United States Constitution and its Amendments, then go somewhere else and form your own country!

 

forcing website owners to publish what ever you say is not what free speech is about - should we force fox news to add democrat news casters too?

tell fox they can no longer decide who can and can not speak on their network?

course the right doesn't really understand what free speech is, they wanted to tell networks what they could and could not say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/31/palin-criticism-threatens_n_139729.html

"Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like those with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not be considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said."

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When you condemn the child concentration camps, I'll retract my statement. I understand how that puts you in a tough spot, since your cult demands that you support child concentration camps.

I'm talking about _you_, not the opposing party. That's the point. You blindly hate all of the opposing party, while I evaluate individuals.

You believe things that are demonstrably untrue. Thus, you're obviously under the influence of propaganda. That propaganda came from somewhere, that somewhere being your masters.

That's a fine deflection from your "immigrant criminals are invading!" nonsense getting debunked. I understand. The cognitive dissonance must hurt. You were told something was true, you believed because you always believe what you're told, but now you find it was all a lie. That hurts, so you push the whole matter aside.

Again, my point is how you've been brainwashed into believing nonsense, and that's why you hate.

 

I identify as a Dem and I can freely state that I don't like many of the policies of the Reps. I don't believe in trickle down economics and I do believe that healthcare is a human right - particularly in an advanced country such as ours. I don't hold Republican supporters in any type of disgust - they have the same right to their political views as I do mine. I do, however, shake my head at those people (supporting both parties) who will support an individual, right or wrong, simply because they are a member of their party affiliation.