How Many Remain?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by tecoyah, Jan 12, 2018.

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Do You Still Support Donald Trump?

  1. Yes...He is great.

    47.6%
  2. No...I never did.

    38.1%
  3. Yes...I do now but not before.

    4.8%
  4. No...he has lost my support

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. .....Other....I'll explain

    9.5%
  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This forum is a good representative of the political demographics of the United States and I wish to run an experiment. The Trump phenomenon is fading apparently but the most hard core hold on even more tightly and I want to get an idea of how many TrumpHumpers remain devoted.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect that within months..... (or probably within the next two years).......
    a potential economic crisis will occur.......
    I believe that President Trump and his administration will handle it
    wisely.... .and will gain a great deal of support.

    Delaying the potential crisis past the 2018 primaries would also
    gain President Trump more votes in the 2018 and 2020 elections.



    https://totalwealthresearch.com/ric...-gamble-bet-u-s-collapse-warns-cia-economist/

    Buffett’s $55 Billion Gamble is a Bet on U.S. Collapse, Warns CIA Economist




    Mark Taylor:
     
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  3. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect much the opposite as our President and the people he has placed seem incapable of dealing with Macro economics or looking beyond personal wealth and that of "Friends".
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like to give credit to my opponents when I feel it is deserved.......
    and I have to admit that President Obama and the team that he chose
    did deal with the debt crisis of 2009 in a relative wise and effective manner.

    I have to admit..... that although I feel closer to the USA Republican Party that they do indeed seem to have certain blind spots when it comes to Federal Reserve policy.

    I would love it if Oprah were to choose an off the scale genius on MMT like Mr. Chris Brown for V.P., because then President Trump could force his staff to listen to Mr. Brown....... coopt much of what he teaches...... and use the Oprah / Brown 2020 platform to set in motion a massive boom in the USA and world economy!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eader-to-face-president-trump-in-2020.518678/

    MMT proponent Chris Brown for DNC national leader to face President Trump in 2020.

     
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    I chose other. I respect the office of President and support it. But Donald Trump is an embarrassment.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any respect I have for trump is for the Office.

    The man I despise.
     
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    I support Trump because he does not beat around the bush and says what he means. Too many politicians are like the Governor in Best Little Whorehouse In Texas and do a little sidestep around every issue. Trump says what many in this country really want to say and does not believe in political correctness. There are many on the left who want political correctness to be the law of the land and stifle free speech if it disagrees with them. If Trump keeps his campaign promises and builds the wall I will consider him a success and for me anything else is gravy.
     
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    I hate to break it to you but he's already caved in on the wall. He agrees now that it will be a little patch work here, a little fence there and somewhere there'll be nothing because of the terrain. To make matters worse he wants us to pay for it.
     
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    jgoins Well-Known Member

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    That is not a cave, it is acknowledging that the entire terrain may not be suitable for a wall. Build the wall where it is feasible and do what we can where it is not. I knew from the beginning we couldn't build a wall across the entire expanse but to not build it where we can is the same thing as opening the door. You have walls in your home and doors that you lock to keep people out of your house, why shouldn't we have them for our country?
     
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    I think you're looking at this wrong. Back on inauguration day 92% of those who voted for Trump viewed him favorably while 90% of those who voted for Clinton viewed Trump unfavorably. Today, 93% of those who voted for Trump view him favorably while 94% of those who voted for Clinton now view Trump unfavorably. There really is no change there. If one is expecting a Trump supporter on election day to desert him or a Clinton supporter to jump aboard the Trump train, it appears neither will ever happen.

    What has changed is how independents and third party voters view Trump. Remember independents went for Trump 46-42 with 12% voting third party last year. On inauguration day, independents/third party voters gave Trump a 44% favorable, 41% unfavorable rating. Today, those same independents/third party voters give Trump 34% favorable/53% unfavorable. It is this group of voters Trump is losing. There will be no changing the views of avid Trump or Clinton supporters. I think it is about time folks realize that.
     
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    I wonder if those independents will change their minds if Trump actually does make America great again and puts more money in their pockets or does it only stem from his not acting presidential?
     
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    This morning I read that Trump's popularity rating was now at 46%; which means that it's not all coming from people Right of Center. With all their fake news generated about Trump by the Leftist-Allied Mainstream Media the Left (the Democratic Party) itself is continuing to lose loyalty support among its voters; and that's because most of the leftist political propaganda insults the intelligence of thinking people.
     
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    When you ask about support, I wonder if that means everything he says and does. In fact, there has never been a president elected who I supported completely and utterly in all he said and did. I have supported some more than others, though I also wonder if you simply mean agree? As far as Trump goes, I support his actions and attempts(those decisions which must be approved by Congress) at a rate of something over 60%, as a guesstimate. That is more than double the rate I agreed with the previous president and more than most I've lived under, democrat or republican.
     
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    It's hard to tell. A booming economy usually favors the party in power. For the midterms, 9 months away, is that enough time for the tax cuts to bite? I don't know. Although history has show that since FDR with one lone exception, the party that holds the White House always loses seats in congress in the first midterm. The lone exception was G.W. Bush in 2002 following 9-11 which united the country behind Bush and his party.

    Gallup had a poll, although not broke down by party that showed those who disapprove of Trump, 65% do so on character issues, call it his persona, 16% on policy issues.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/214091/...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    Another Gallup poll on personality and leadership qualities a president should have, 34% said Trump has them along with 40% who agree with Trump on the issues that matter most to them. But compare that to Obama and Bush.

    60% said Obama had the personality and leadership qualities a president should have while only 46% agreed on the issues that mattered most to them.

    59% said G.W. Bush had the personality and leadership qualities a president should have while 50% agreed with Bush on the issues that mattered most to them.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/214151/...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    The above is all adults. Independents in the same poll, scroll down show that 35% of them agree with Trump on the issues, but only 28% say Trump has the personality and leadership qualities to be president.

    I think Trump's persona, at least for the coming midterms will be hard to overcome even if the economy begins to boom. Trump grates on people, at least on those who aren't avid supporters of him. Keep in mind the first midterms is usually a referendum on the new president. Also folks usually don't vote for someone they dislike or in the case of the midterms, the party they dislike.

    70% of Independents on election day last year had an unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton vs. a 57% unfavorable view of Donald Trump. Trump won the independent vote 46-42 over Clinton with 12% of independents voting third party. The 12% disliked both candidates. While other independents who disliked both candidates held their nose and voted for the candidate they disliked the least. Bottom line I think is independents carried Trump to the White House. Now he has lost them. Questions 10 and 11 below.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

    One last thing, today in the generic congressional poll the Democrats have between a 10-12 point lead depending on the poll. You can check out the generic congressional polls here:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrprom

    Although it is still very early, history shows that the party who holds a ten point lead or more in the generic congressional poll usually picks up 30 plus seats in congress. With 29 Republican Representatives choosing not to run for re-election, open seats are much easier to win, switch, I think the 30 seats might even be low.
     
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    Actually this forum is a horrible representation of demographics.

    Since we are all hanging out in a political forum to begin with it will taint your results.
     
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    I've never been a Trump supporter. I am a supporter of his actions, not his speech which I consider to be problematic. So far he is the most effective president in my lifetime. It would be nice if he would shut up but he won't so it is best to ignore what he says and pay attention to what he does.
     
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    I am a firm believer that actions speak louder than words.
     
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    They always have -- except in politics.
     
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    Maybe they will soon.
     
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    Huh?

    Trump's Core Supporters Remain Loyal

    https://www.usnews.com/news/ken-wal...nt-donald-trumps-core-supporters-remain-loyal
     

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