How Meixco should settle the talks of the wall

Exactly. Mexico doesn't want to pay, we get that. That doesn't matter in the least. As you say, Mexico gave us this problem, Mexico will pay for the solution. Nieto screaming about it isn't going to change President Trump's response to the immigration problem.

And that's the bottom line. President Trump holds all the cards. President Nieto would do well to remember that.

Mexico will pay. Period.

At this point, it is truly silly to contend that Mexico won't pay for the wall. And it's even more silly to recognize only a single form of legitimate payment. Come on, we should be able to think properly about this subject.

No, I don't think anybody believes that the wall will stop illegal immigration. But will it help with the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border? Of course it will. Will it help to stem the tide of drugs and contraband crossing into the United States? Of course it will. The fact that the wall is merely a portion of the solution does not constitute an argument for why it shouldn't be put in place as a portion of the solution.

Yes. People who argue that walls don't work should perhaps take the time to look at walls which do. 'Nuf said.

 

Nice revisionist history.
The border fence was never completed because it turned out to be wildly expensive and Congress failed to provide funding for it.

 

Why should they? The idea is ridiculous on its face.

 

This isn't a gdamn football game.

 

Max 1500 miles long wall next to Canada. Before lake he promise.

But I wanted not both wall and NAFTA. I will to change my mind ?!

 

And we're going to maintain that kind of system over 2000 fcking miles? To keep out migrant fcking workers?? Are you serious?

 

Lefties see people through class, not national origin. Its a Marxism throw back.

 

Mexico should pay because they are responsible for creating the situation where 10% of its population is in the U.S.

Mexico is corrupt, backwards, and third-world. If Mexico had its s--- together, we wouldn't have this problem.

 

Mexico has stricter immigration policies than the US. Just recently, Cubans had made their way up from central America to Cuba in the hopes of getting into the US. Once Trump was elected, Mexico deported them back to Cuba after they asked for asylum. Mexico thinks that they have a right to invade another country, but they are wrong. They have made a lot of money by doing this, but it must end.
When Nieto canceled after Trump said that maybe the meeting should be canceled, the dollar went up and their money went down. They are Third World and desperately need the US and they know it.

 

I wanted not the wall and NAFTA!!!! If true this thing I wait to next election to hold on America's again. A female president I will or if Trump dies I will a female or Pence.

 

It's not just the wall that irritates the America hating left about Trump. It's the idea that America should stand up for itself in the world and feel pride rather than feel shame and wallow in guilt and self degradation.

Trump has boldly proclaimed "America First" and it has made the left physically ill. That says just as much about the American left as it does about Trump.

With regard to the wall specifically; who gives a damn what Mexico thinks? They need us a whole hell of a lot more than we need them. We have the power and the are in the right. Mexico is basically a parasitic third world sh1thole leeching of the preeminenet super power with the world's largest economy. Trump can and should have his way with Mexico.

 

Buy stock in tunneling Equipment Company

 

Wake up. Building a wall would be a US security initiative. When a country wants to implement security measures they don't demand the country the measure is supposed to protect against fund it! It's common fvcking sense. Now you can wring your hands and obfuscate about Mexico indirectly paying for it but you and I know that's bullsh!t. By trumps logic, if a policy is good for America we should do it whether they pay for the wall or not, right?? Or are you saying that we won't make deals that most benefit us if Mexico agrees to pay for a wall? Or are you saying that if Mexico doesn't pay that we will enact measures that actually are NOT in our best interest but punishes Mexico? You see, this silly position that Mexico will, or should, pay for our wall is simply untenable. Anyone who repeats it looks a little, ummm, less intelligent.

 

Who says it's thier choice?

 

Of course it's their choice. Mexico is a sovereign nation.

 

Mexico will not be paying for the wall. Trump has already announced a 20% tax on all goods coming from Mexico. Your avocados are going to be more expensive. We'll be paying for the wall.

Most illegal immigrants come here legally and overstay their visa. A wall will not stop them.

Ladder manufacturers will be selling ladders that are 5 feet higher than the wall. Same for shovel manufacturers.

/sigh

 

Are there really people stupid enough to think that a border tax will cause mexico to pay for the wall? Does a gas tax force oil companies to pay for our roads?

 

Paul Ryan has already said that Americans will pay for the wall and he is in charge of the pursestrings.

 

Do you know how much more it costs to patrol these borders without infrastructure.
At best they have dirt tracks to drive along. Imagine how dangerous it is for Border Patrol at night without any lights to see just who is crossing.
And with more technology you can utilize less human resources. Think for a second before you spew foolishness.

Where are you getting this ridiculous notion that it's only migrant workers coming across??!!
There are flipping drug dealers carrying duffel bags of heroine across the border to poison US citizens. They're carrying guns and prostitutes and so much other problems that USA does not need right now. Watch the news some time will you .... get your head out of the gutter, WAKE UP!

 

Why should Mexico have anything to say about US policy? They've as much admitted the worst thing that could happen is they stop sending us cheap labor to change the bed linens in our hotels.

 

You are funny. And you have no idea what you're talking about. The money required to maintain a fleet of drones, surveillance systems, infrared, radar, lidar, whatever unrealistic fantasy you are bleating on about, over 2000 miles of border would be more than prohibitively expensive! And yeah, it might only keep out some, less creative, migrant workers. It won't curtail the drug flow one gdamn iota!

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Who said they should?

 

Not me either. I guess it's on now with the 20% tariff on Mexican goods including weed. I'm really hoping the wall comes with a guided walking tour where Trump explains how great he's making America.

 

You don't think Mexico pays that tariff do you?

 

It seems you endorse the existing policy of being afraid to offend any other government, so we should speak softly and suck up.

There is a reason why that border needs to be controlled- and that reason relates to what Mexico sends across it. Seems reasonable to expect some cooperation from their government, doesn't it?

Trump always knew Mexico wasn't going to send a check, and that having them pay for the wall would require a different strategy- one that convinces them that the problem of drugs and the invasion of illegals into the US is something that affects their nation too, in ways besides making them money through remittances and a vast amount of money coming into the Mexican economy as a result of the drug business.

It would be obvious to any who cares to look that Trump is an exceptional strategist, and what you think is off-hand or random act is usually part of the plan. Wait and see- I'd bet that eventually, the relationship with Mexico will be better than it is now, and both sides will benefit from it.

 

It should be you who should think before spewing nonsense. How much do you think it would cost to have this technology that can be put out of action with one bullet? About your guns - guns are exported into Mexico. Prostitutes are a US specialty. There are TV series that celebrate your whore houses with the workers treated like celebrities