How Ron Paul Wins the Nomination: A break-down of delegates and a brokered convention

Name the post where I said or inferred that!

Will things be better than with b.o.? YES!

"so much better," to quote you, NO!

Would things be even better with Paul? NO!

Romney is a doer, doesn't matter if YOU don't like what he does, Paul is a talker and does nothing.

And it will be Romney. [not my first choice]

Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul are finished.

 

They tried to "hijack" it by using Robert's Rules of Order...the governing rules of the Caucus. In many places this strategy is working. Enough so that we could be 3rd in the first round of voting at the convention and Romney will fall short of the 1.144. After delegates are freed up, our numbers will increase and Romney's will drop. I believe that round three will come between Santorum and Paul to take the lead. That is my opinion based on what I've witness of the energy and enthusiasm of Romney supporters versus Paul supporters. You are right, the majority of Republicans support Romney; but they aren't really excited about it. Paul supporters are, obviously, very excited about it.

Our system of government is set up so that a vocal minority can prevent the majority from taking over.

In this case, when the backers of the President are "hijacking" the opposition...

The same people fund Obama and Romney. The majority of their platform is the same, and supports the same interests. What is the point of an opposition to represent the minority if it is taken over by the same majority that is already in power?

 

Who is your first choice?

 

Here's the Maddow report on the caucuses and also Ben Swann's "Reality Check" on the mess in Missouri.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PnOhxNISHo&feature=player_embedded"]The Republican Caucus and Primary Mess (Part 2) - Rachel Maddow, MSNBC - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKe0dxBJy1A&feature=player_embedded"]Reality Check GOP committee attempts to manipulate delegate process in Missouri - YouTube[/ame]

 

Stop this. It's a false conclusion. People not voting for Paul don't have to think things will get "better" under Romney or Santorum or Obama. For all you know they are only voting for other people because they don't want things to get "worse" under Paul(which in my opinion is all but guaranteed with the man if he were to win).

 

Maybe you should define what, in your opinion, things getting better or worse actually means.

Fact is, under a Ron Paul administration, we would have a balanced budget in 3 years. ALL the other candidates plans will produce larger deficits and more debt.

We are now at over $16 Trillion in debt. That figure will be close to $18 Trillion by Inauguration Day no matter who is elected. All the other candidates will take our debt to over $20 Trillion in their first term. Then we start talking about $1 Trillion in annual interest payments alone. How is that better?

The new Paul Ryan plan has us not balancing the budget until 2040. Talk about kicking the can down the road!!....and this is from the guy the GOP heralds as its premier fiscal Conservative!

Forget Iran, jobs, energy, liberty, birth control pills, ObamaCare or any of the other issues. They all take a back seat to our country going belly up from too much spending.

Vote Ron Paul or vote for our demise.

 

Name the part in my post where I singled you out...

Then what is the point of voting that person in???

Yes it would...would there be a massive, radical change? YES! Would it benefit our country more than the other candidates? YES!

Once again...the concept you fail to grasp is...doing NOTHING is better than doing the SAME thing that has harmed this country for so long!!

 

Is it really?

In 2001, people voted Bush in office because he was supposed to be so much better....where did that get us...

In 2008, people voted Obama in office because he was supposed to be so much better...where did that get us...

And just why exactly do you think things will get worse?

 

Supporting a talker that accomplishes nothing is a total waste of time and energy. And Paul is a talker that accomplishes nothing. Paul was completely unable to work with Congress as a Congressman, he would continue to be completely unable to work with Congress as president. The president DOES not RULE over Congress.

 

Do you know why they call it a "Secret Ballot?"

How much money do you make?

Where do you live?

What's you Social Security number and credit card number.

Are all those things none of my business? Yes.
Is my choice any of your business? NO.

You know its NOT Paul, that's all you need to know.

NOW, my choice is NOT OBAMA!

 

Yes...I was referring to your post...NOT YOU! Just because I referred to it as a talking point does NOT mean I was directing it at you! But if you are so intent on being included...then yes...I will be happy to add you to that mix of people...

You're right...a slow moving train headed towards destruction is just SO much better than a fast one... /sarcasm

 

having a small minority derail the process doesn't sound like following the rules to me

it's going to blow back into ron paul's face, he won't be nominated and will further sully his reputation

 

Paul has been off parked on a siding since 1976, how's that help? /serious question.

 

Is there any evidence they did not follow the caucus rules?

 

Easy...it's not headed for destruction...

 

Because everything I've read and absorbed tells me that Ron Paul is a dreamer, whose policies sound great on paper, but will reek havoc if actually implemented. Plus, I don't believe the system should be torn down in favor of a system with NO modern precedent. I don't want 50 different states held together by little else besides the fact they reside on the same landmass. I don't want unfettered free trade. I don't believe you can run a country with a weak federal government. I don't believe gutting institutions that serve real tangible purposes just for the sake of honoring a document that's 225 years old and hardly relevant in the modern world.

There I said it.

I don't WANT a constitutional government. Well no, that's not exactly it. I don't want a strictly constitutional government. Use the constitution instead to list the powers that the federal government doesn't have. You don't want an FBI or CIA, put it in the constitution. No department of education? Put it in the constitution. I'm not going to watch my country get flushed down the crapper following some ideals written by men with absolutely no concept of what the modern world is like. It was a great start, and a great basis to build on, but you show me one country, anywhere in the world, that is run exactly the way Paul wants to do it, and then explain to me how that works in a nation the size of ours with the population(that is still growing) that we have.

No thanks, I'll take my chances with more of the same, as it appears the vast majority of American's are doing, at least effectively, since Paul can barely get double digit numbers in the primaries.

Darnit, I did it again. I forgot he's losing because of the election fraud. My apologies Ron Paul supporters.

 

Thank you for your post...you proved my point exactly as to why we are headed for destruction...

 

Maybe someday you will learn that inaction, IS FAILURE.

Now you mistakenly believe that doing nothing wrong IS doing something right. It isn't. Companies FAIL due to inaction. Programs fail due to inaction. Nations fail due to inaction. Inaction IS failing action. Deciding to do nothing IS a decision, a bad one.
And I'll even give that Paul tried. I don't know for certain that he tried, but I'll allow that he did. Regardless, he failed consistently for 12 terms. obama has gained NO experience in 3 years in office, Paul has not figured anything out in 3 decades in office. The nation has no place for either.

 

You're welcome.

But I get to have the last laugh since the destruction I truly want to avoid WILL be avoided since Ron Paul will not be winning.

 

the video shows that ron paulogists were shouting and being disruptive, not following parliamentary procedure intended to maintain order

 

Hey genius...they were shouting because the caucus was NOT following the rules set in place for it!

 

We will see who has the last laugh if the so-called leaders you think can help this country will fail...and you will be back here...complaining about the state of the country...

 

Ron Paul has had a very disappointing run thus far in this GOP primary. For all the hype he has, along with his great organization and funding he should be doing better than he's doing.

 

You're right, only I'll have to end each complaint with "...but it could be worse, imagine if Ron Paul were president".

I suppose I should thank him for providing some much needed perspective as to what's bad and what's really bad.

 

Your opinion, could be right, could be wrong. Either way, Paul will be out of the picture, just as he is now.