How Ron Paul Wins the Nomination: A break-down of delegates and a brokered convention

who selected him, the nwo imperial wizard?

 

No, the Pixy Dust fairy

 

what a joke, get real

 

Speaking of jokes

 

yes, it was meant to be facetious

certainly you can't really think he was selected, if you do, then tell me who selected him

 

Romney WILL HAVE more than 1144 fully bound delegates by convention time. Paul won't have 100.

 

If that is the case then Romney will win. Though there are many ways which your numbers won't actually be the numbers.

First, as far as winning plurality of delegates (this was a previous point), this article (U.S. News) references the Iowa Republican Party admitting that Paul may end up with the majority of delegates there:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ballot-2012/2012/03/23/there-is-still-hope-for-ron-paul

The Iowa Republican Party confirms that delegate assignments have little to do with the straw poll, and that Paul may secure the most delegates from the state, Mullen Writes.

Also, here is a post on a (full disclosure) pro-Paul site talking about caucus results coming in:

http://www.dailypaul.com/222669/delegate-results-start-to-roll-in#comment-2338584

Tanney County Missouri - Official election day result Ron Paul 11.5% - Actual Caucus result Ron Paul 100% - We have ALL the delegates
Greene County and Boone county too. In fact we are told we will get the MAJORITY of all NATIONAL CONVENTION delegates from Missouri.

Washington State - Official result - Ron Paul second with 24%. Yet in the 6th, 36th and 46th district, we took 100% of the delegates to the state convention and are likely to get the Majority from Washington state.

So, if Paul is actually taking more of these delegates, then that means Romney is actually getting less.

Also, the likelihood is that Gingrich will not have the 5 state plurality to make the first ballot, thus, his delegates will be free to vote how they wish. I'm assuming most will go to Santorum or Paul, with Romney getting the least.

Second, is the "abstain" option that most bound/pledged delegates have on the first vote. So, if say, 5 of the delegates bound to Romney from Florida are actually Paul supporters (or Santorum supporters) they can abstain to vote in the first round (thus, holding out until they are free to vote for their actual choice). This will help keep Romney from the 1,144.

So, we'll see. It's only a few months away, might as well just wait to see the reality rather than trying to assert your prediction.

All I'm saying is we can win (which is true) and explaining the process in which we make that happen, no matter how "unlikely" it is, it is still possible.

 

You could have said that Paulobots live in a world of make-believe and saved some space.

Paul is already out of it.

Gingrich is already out of it.

Santorum is already out of it.

Paul won nothing nowhere. 26 ACTUAL delegates. The 3rd punch line in the running Paul for president JOKE.

1988 a laugher,
2008, another laugher.
2012, the final laugher, NOT the last laugh.

And the opening act was his comedic loss in the Republican Primary for a Senate seat in 84.

Paul has tried carrying water in a wicker basket for 3 decades and still can't figure out why his shoes are wet.

 

We got 80% of delegates from Jackson County, MO:

http://lorienjohnson.com/2012/03/liveblogging-the-jackson-county-missouri-caucus/

 

your boys nominated Dole, Bush and McCain.
Need anything more be said ?

 

More from the Paulobot world of make-believe. These UNBOUND delegates do not increase Paul's total of 26 delegates.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2AvSwzuok"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2AvSwzuok[/ame]

 

what an amusing pack of lies that radio show is

 

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/scorecard/statebystate/r

http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/primary-elec...?party=R&tag=breakingnews;electionsticker

http://www.gop.com/index.php/comms/comments/updated_delegate_count_3.16.2012

The "Genius" of going after delegates??????????

Half way thru and Paul has LOCKED UP 26 delegates. It would be hilarious except for the imaginary world of Paulobots.

Including ALL the unbound delegates that are likely to back Paul, he has 78.

But when Romney PASSES 1144 locked in delegates, which he will do BEFORE the convention, Paul's delegates turn to smoke.

Paul's 'genius' strategy to garner delegates HAS worked better than his career in Congress. Delegates, 26. Congress, meaningful bills passed, 0.

 

Looks like all three of the other candidates are working together to keep Paul from winning Washington...interesting...

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/...ney-santorum-gingrich-unite-to-stop-ron-paul/

 

Doing good in MO as well!

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/politi...egates-in-jackson-county-caucus#ixzz1qBQTNT4K

 

Here we are, the 25th of March. There have been 22 elections this month. Paul has picked up 33 'soft' delegates this month. That's 1.5 delegates per election.
If only we had 763 states and territories to vote, Paul could pick up 1144 delegates.

There IS a chance he will fall a bit short.

 

Wow, Ron Paul supporters are rocking it in Nevada. This is a great local report/interview.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxpgMMOm6o"]Ron Paul Supporters Swarm Clark County GOP Convention (3-25-12) - YouTube[/ame]

 

3 candidates have 'bound' delegates and 'unbound' delegates. Paulobots make believe that Paul has 'bound,' 'unbound' and 'imaginary,' delegates. The RNC does not recognize 'imaginary' delegates.

 

Romney campaign gets Santorum and Gingrich supporters to team up against Paul in WA: Works until Santorum supporters realize that Romney is then taking all the delegates...at least that's how the story is being told:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZYQOzFT3Q"]Securing Nomination 4 Mitt by Tricking Santorum and Newt supporters in Tacoma WA 3-24-2012 - YouTube[/ame]

http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-in-denver/wa-gop-on-hidden-camera-excluding-ron-paul-delegates

 

Something we (Ron Paul supporters) can do to help him win the Nomination is to not waste our time and energy directly responding to "anti-Paul trolls."

Instead we need to focus on empowering each other, informing the public on how the process is working to secure more delegates, and what exactly we plan on doing.

I stopped in my personal life trying to predict how other people will react, my plans and predictions are only how I will act (and sometimes I don't even get that right!).

My plan is to continue to promote the policies I agree with and support candidates that promote them, no matter how much of a "long-shot" they are (I voted for Nader in 2000! And made sure my family knew about Perot in 1992...I was 11!).

As far as the Primary is concerned, my game plan is: apply with the official campaign to become a delegate and campaign hard in my Congressional District (if Ron Paul wins my district, and the campaign selects me as a delegate, I get to go to the convention).

As far as Delegates that make it to the convention; my advice is:

1. If you are bound to another candidate Abstain from voting the first round.
2. Vote Ron Paul the second round.
3. Before the Third-Round, start talking to the other delegates about Paul being better than "the other" (Romney to Santorum supporters, Santorum to Romney supporters; you are being genuine with both because Paul is better than both). Talk to them about how Paul is an actual opposition candidate, and how they want the energy of Paul supporters backing them up, not being pushed away.
4. Rinse and Repeat until a Nominee is chosen.

That's it. I'm not concerned with predicting how others will react to this strategy, I'm more interested in finding out how they react!

 

Until someone can; state by state, delegate by delegate, give me a delegate count, I'm going to go with this one:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WDhyQ3eSQ0"]True Updated Delegate Count - Ron Paul RISING! - YouTube[/ame]

Romney: 425
Santorum: 361
Paul: 225
Gingrich: 165

 

Your delusions will fade in only a few more short months.

 

i remember thinking that about this time, four years ago

 

The Ronulans are among us: How Ron Paul’s delegate strategy is actually working

On they come, marginalized by the media and ridiculed by the Republican establishment. Their votes are often rejected at precinct caucuses, their voices ignored by temporary chairmen who flaunt their own rules and pretend that they have the votes for their prearranged delegate slates.

On one occasion a crowd of onlookers shouts objections at this fraud, only to be subjected to prearranged organized arrests for “disturbing the peace.” Some participants openly weep, in shame for the obscenity of such blatant corruption. Others become angry. In Missouri, a weary delegate is seen vomiting by the side of a building, sick over what she has just experienced.

In Kentucky they show up to find that their name is on a list prohibited from participation by the County Chairman. He claims he did a drive-by the day before and they had a Libertarian sign in their yard and therefore cannot participate in a GOP caucus.

In Nevada the microphones are only allowed for favored candidates and are turned off when a young Hispanic tries to speak. There are lots of Hispanics among this crowd. Parliamentary rules are ignored. Prospective delegates are intimidated.

In Virginia, they are tricked into leaving the building, told that if there is no quorum the vote can be delayed until the rest of their people show up. But once out of the building the County Chairman, herself, locks the door so they can’t get back in.

In Alaska, election times are changed and their names are excluded from robo calls announcing those changes. Participants from all of the other campaigns are invited. Insiders are reportedly allowed to vote in caucuses by telephone conference calls, meanwhile, young people who show up are turned away in droves, saying they are too late or not registered, in spite of showing registration documents.

In Maine, a county chairman cancels the caucus, knowing that they will have a strong showing. A GOP official transfers false data and her phony numbers are caught by a local newspaper.

In an Oklahoma county convention a corrupt chairman adds new delegates who didn’t attend precinct caucuses and eliminates those who actually did. Another establishes a credentials committee which eliminates anyone under the age of thirty.

And yet, on they come, in spite of the pain, the inconvenience, the open hostility of the Party bosses. They are like a tide of the ocean. And for every precinct or county where they are violated or cheated, there is another where their sheer numbers prevail. These are the Ronulans, the Ron Paul supporters, trying to take back the Mothership from the corrupt Empire. And unseen, unheralded by the national media, they are showing signs of success.

In Seattle they overwhelm the 46th and 36th legislative district delegate elections, electing their own chairman, and winning every single one of the 21 delegates to the state convention. The rejected former GOP chairman, pouting over his loss, walks off the stage with all of the Party ballots and scanners, perhaps believing that they cannot have a meeting without the Republican Party’s technology.

They out-organized us says a Romney man. The same thing happens in the 36th District, where the Paul’s supporters vote down a Romney contrived “unity slate” that claimed to represent all of the other candidates. Weeks ago the Associated Press claimed that Romney would win 30 of the Washington State delegates to the national convention, Ron Paul, they reported would win 5. But it is turning out to be very different.

In Minnesota, where the AP projects 37 delegates for Santorum, 1 for Gingrich and 0 for Ron Paul the difference between media and reality is even more stark. In Carver County, Minnesota (suburban Minneapolis) Ron Paul supporters show up in force securing 30 out of the 52 delegate slots that will go onto the State Convention. Reports across the state are similar, especially in the suburbs. In most of them Ron Paul supporters account for at least a third of the delegates that will go to State. Theoretically, if they could unite, a Santorum-Paul deal could split the whole delegation to Tampa and deny Romney all but a few.

It is the same story in Missouri. Here too, Senator Rick Santorum won the statewide beauty contest but is seeing the delegates being swept away by the Ronulan tide. Ron Paul sweeps the St. Louis City Caucus and doubles the nearest delegate winner, Mitt Romney, in Jackson County (Kansas City.) It is a dramatic showing. In the Sixth Congressional District, Dr. Paul bags the whole lot, winning every single delegate to the State Convention.

Santorum wins Christian County but it is a bittersweet victory. The Country Chairmen himself openly declares “voter fraud.” Videos and written eye witness reports abound on what really happened.

Perhaps the most dramatic contest centers on Greene County. (Springfield, Missouri.) This is the home to the national headquarters for the Assemblies of God and the Baptist Bible Fellowship, of Jimmy Swaggart and Jerry Falwell fame, respectively. The Ronulans extend a hand of cooperation to the Santorum people but it is rejected. And who can blame them? Santorum had carried the County by 54% in the statewide, non binding, contest. The Romney people quickly step into the breach, make peace with the Ronulans. The end result is a delegation to the State Convention that is 59% Ron Paul, 36% Mitt Romney and 5% Rick Santorum.

Again in Boone County, (Columbia, Missouri,) Ron Paul organizer, Bruce Summers tries to strike a deal with Santorum supporters and is flatly rejected. The Ronulans promptly elect a new chairman of the caucus and the Romney supporters, seeing the math, fall into line, offering to join with the Ron Paul forces just to be able to get a piece of the delegation that will go onto State.

Santorum forces become so defensive over the invasion of young Ronulans in Cass County that they make a deal with Romney they didn’t have to make. Just to be certain of keeping out the Ron Paul supporters, they give up five delegates to Romney, their main rival for the GOP nomination. Like the Ron Paul deals with Romney, it is a tactical decision of strategic incompetence.

In Iowa, where it all began last January, where the Romney State Chairman delayed reports that Santorum had really won after all, they have announced a new State Chairman. He is A.J. Spiker, the State co-chairman for Ron Paul for president. And still, the AP delegate tracker suggests that split of delegates from Iowa will be Santorum 14, Romney 12, and Ron Paul 1. Clearly, if the Ronulans can replace the Romney State Chair with their own man, they will get much more than one delegate to Tampa.

So who are these Ron Paul supporters? They are young. He carried 48% of the youth vote in Iowa, 47% in New Hampshire, while six other candidates split the rest. They are Hispanic. He carried 52% of the Hispanic vote in Clark County, Nevada ( Las Vegas) while all of the others split the rest. And they are Independents. In a recent CBS poll he did better among Independents than all other candidates including Barack Obama.

And that means that they are the future. It means they are going to keep coming. They cannot be stopped, only delayed. And not for long. They are coming. They are coming.

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