How Should We Deal with Sex Offenders?

Many crimes are not committed out of a necessity. Drug possession is certainly not a crime of necessity, nor is entering the country illegally. And yet many are willing to argue that they should not be crimes at all.

So we must ask why is it alright to critically discuss some non-necessity crimes, but others cannot be discussed at all?

 

Child molesters are no less humans than everybody else so i don't see why they should deserve a special punishment.

 

We all make choices in our lives, maybe his parents should have taught him better?

 

it's definately a "scarlet A" sort of marking punishment. Like I inferred earlier, I'm not for eliminating it altogether, as I want to know when a former sex offender is located, just like I want to know if a murderer, a thief, ect before I hire them....

but not all sex crimes are the same, and we need to differentiate. Now, that's not saying ignore.... just differentiate.

My neighbor example..... he red-flags any search for sex offender in job searches, apartment rental applications, etc, just like Sandusky would, and that's not right for the stupid kid who flashed his junk at a girl that, had he just screwed her, wouldn't have been flagged at all.

 

No, that's your implication, I never said that.

 

you won't get any argument from me on that. I didn't like any of them when they lived next door to me.... but that doesn't address the problem that you are labelling him a Jerry Sandusky on all pedo-searches, and restricting him the same as a sandusky after he's out of prison (I know Jerry won't ever be free, but there are plenty who serve their 20 years and get out in their 50s)

Flashing his junk is not the same as a 50 yo gay raping a 13 yo

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so do you support degrees, or levels of sex offender?

Level 1 - junk flashers
level 5 - Jerry Sandusky

??

 

The question is whether the list is what causes recidivism or not. I think there's evidence to suggest that recidivism occurs largely because those who have served time are essentially still punished after their sentence has ended.

It's similar to how we continue to punish any sort of felon after they have served time.

Logically, it makes sense to limit people according to the crimes they have committed in the past, but when we limit people in all avenues of life, then they often fall back into old habits, because they have nothing to lose and very little to gain.

 

That's not a crime deserving jail as far as i know, but discriminating a guy just for doing that is wrong. Actually even discriminating ex inmates is wrong because you are negating them the ability to socially recover... even a child molester has his rights, everyone does.

 

It's a perversion just like same sex marriage or couples you can't cure it. It comes from Lucifer.

 

Poe's Law?

 

it's the same way probation after prison works though. But I agree, scarlet A is a social stigma used to punish people more, even after they have paid their debt.

The kid next door didn't serve any time, but he had a public defender, I'm assuming (it was a habitat for humanity house, so I can't imagine they could afford a great lawyer). And he's now registered. I honestly had no idea this all was happening when it happened... I just happen to see his name and the reason listed on the app. I looked it up and got the rest of the info from there.

 

And that is a reason to endanger rape victims by giving their rapists incentive to kill them?

 

For all intents that purposes, the lives of the victims were over the moment they were raped. That trauma will be with them for the rest of their lives, and drastically alter their outlook on life. There will be no semblance of what others consider to be normalcy in the aftermath.

 

We cant base our policies around an unproven theory.

 

Laws should not be based on the criminal element claiming that they will commit far more heinous acts in response to their passage.

 

Date of thread creation 2011

Nice zombie thread rehash
I know Jerad the Subway guy is a piece of @#$%. but where in the hell did you find this old thread to respond to?
In response to your zombie post....What if was your underage daughter/son?

 

I already responded to this. Your failure to read the thread is obvious, and an affront to the good points others have been making.

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Correct; but perhaps additional penalties could be added if that happens. Otherwise society is allowing itself to be blackmailed.

 

Oh, I read the whole thread. How do you think i knew it was you to respond to. I didn't see your post that answered my question though. I may have missed it.
How would you deal with the sex offender, that raped your son/daughter? Not just flashed his junk.
Getting on that list if usually due to a plea, or confession. You get what you get for doing dumb ^&%$

 

kill them.

 

*blinks* Seriously? Are you aware of what you just wrote?

No worries if rape victims are murdered, that's perfectly fine because they are already dead!

What the everloving (*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

As long as we have courts that allow contempt of court, or are themselves contemptuous of law, we won't know because the links between church and state control psychology/psychiatry preventing them from working directly from the unconscious mind.

This a letter admitting to failure to appear on subpoena for arrest and booking records which by law must have court case file counterparts. In this case, insanity actions with medical examinations.



This is a witnessed declaration of the individual who was in jail and found the arrest and booking records subpoenaed stating the records were in the possession of the county one year before the subpoena.



The lawsuit was about court case files absent from the court record. Proof of absent court case files invokes other state law to replace the knowledge the public needs.

Court records are records of societies mistakes. A society that does not remember its mistakes is doomed to repeat them.

I was able to determine without the records what created the mass insanity the church and state are. hiding from the world. It was an abuse of an ancient form of hypnosis which creates a very deep hypnotic trance only called by the name "somnambulism", which is also sleep walking.

Somnambulism is the ultimate human learning state. Information goes directly to the unconscious mind. This fact remains unrecognized because of the churches control over academia and medicine.

Somnambulism is the mental state used to keep ancient oral histories which carried human history to the point of the written word. It is also the mental state a used by witchcraft to create the effects it is known for. Therefore the truth of it is deemed heresy and academia under the church cannot recognize it.

Psychology is so controlled by the church that witches retaliate by turning priests into child molesters and the church compels the courts to violate laws which could manifest the intent off the Hippocratic oath and protect everyone from dynamic abuses conducted by secret societies determined to control the world with abuse of the unconscious mind.

 

If someone is willing to commit sexual assault of a minor, despite knowing that they will be given the death penalty, then they are beyond the point of any rationality, and should not be treated with any measure of care. If they wish to die for their actions, then so be it.

Anything else would be approaching the subject with the mindset of not doing anything that might possibly anger the sex offender, suggesting that they can influence politics through fear.

 

Yes, repeat offense is the prime thing to prevent in all criminal activities. Protecting children is one of the main reasons we have civilization to begin with. It would be nice if we were as civilized as we want to think of ourselves. But social fears, things unconsciously known and reacted to really have far more sway over us than they should. But we have learned this in the last 2,000 years. An entire host of unconscious fears control us and we do not readily acknowledge it. When this invades medicine and the courts, we all suffer.

Psychology wants to treat the unconscious directly, as is shown in the letter to me from the senior director of the county department of mental health care.

I had proposed a treatment to them which I had learned of from a psychologist who was a hypnotist and had treated many famous people in Hollywood over 50 years. When he had a subject difficult to hypnotize. He utilized nitrous oxide and oxygen exactly as a dentist uses them for pain and anxiety control to augment his skills of hypnosis.



This is a medically proven safe procedure and dentists have used it on small children for the last 40 years.

All human behavior is controlled by instincts. While in a trance state such as somnambulism, or one induced with narco hypnosis, the instincts can be addressed directly.

With sexual deviancy it is a case of self conditioning engaging instincts that exist, but are not evolutionary. Or, their practices lead towards destruction of the human family and it's extinction.

Accordingly, re conditioning which invokes proper, evolutionary instincts which are deeper, but viscerally not as engaging requires time in social structure that involves other more dynamic uses of instincts is fully possible, but not for us. We are controlled by fear and the PURPOSE of free speech cannot manifest creating understanding adequate for significant numbers if people to become involved to change the situation.

Notice the dates of these documents. If that were not true, a person using the internet would be able to assemble enough support to break the stranglehold on truth that the system has.

BTW, the answer in writing never appeared. A FOIA was used on the superiors of the mental health department in 2000, because I am certain they were the ones stopping the interactions, not the doctors. This was done in an effort to get the written response, or some accountability. It was not only ignored, the copy file stamped into the clerk of the boards record was gone within 3 years. Here is the refiled request 9/17/13



Courts of all types constantly deprive me of justice so I am impoverished and cannot use my right to free speech to effectively share any of these facts. This is their intention as it protects the secrecy by which treason is conducted.