How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Why do you think people should explain things to you because YOU are confused?

And you seem to create confusion by twisting what others post to suit what YOU believe.

Ever ask yourself why you have to do that?

Ever have a POINT? Most posters have a point, a stance, a viewpoint, a statement.......an opinion they are NOT afraid to express.....

Have you a statement to make on abortion?

Do you agree with the SC ruling on abortion?

Why can't you answer that?


To quote you: """Yes, which you have been incapable of stating your opinion on. What's the problem?""""

 

When this thread was first posted I thought it was pathetic.....it sure is ending that way

 

No I do not. I believe that it should be up to each state given that healthcare is a state matter.

 

And yours do?

 

Why do you think people should explain things to you because YOU are confused?

And you seem to create confusion by twisting what others post to suit what YOU believe.

Ever ask yourself why you have to do that?

Ever have a POINT? Most posters have a point, a stance, a viewpoint, a statement.......an opinion they are NOT afraid to express.....

Have you a statement to make on abortion?

Do you agree with the SC ruling on abortion?

Why can't you answer that?


To quote you: """Yes, which you have been incapable of stating your opinion on. What's the problem?""""

It isn't "health care"....it's women having the right to their own bodies and every American, no matter what state they live in, should have that right.



Above is the WHOLE post....in case you want to brave other questions...

 

Why do you think people should explain things to you because YOU are confused?

And you seem to create confusion by twisting what others post to suit what YOU believe.

Ever ask yourself why you have to do that?

Ever have a POINT? Most posters have a point, a stance, a viewpoint, a statement.......an opinion they are NOT afraid to express.....

Have you a statement to make on abortion?

There ya go again....no point, just ankle biting....

And, yes, mine do....

 

And so do mine!

 

If people want others to understand their point of view, then why shouldn't they explain things?

Of course.

I prefer to ask questions, but I can give my opinion when asked.

Yes, I don't like it.

I don't believe that it is a women's body rights issue.

 

Ya, like this one

..and your other deep brave argument /assertion: "And yours do?"


Hilarious how you just can't make a statement on the topic but continue to ankle bite.....


I guess you want to avoid answering those inconvenient questions You know, the ones pertaining to the topic ??? Are they too deep?

 

Yes, it is. If abortion is banned that is taking away women's right to their own bodies...slavery.


You don't like abortion...so don't have one....Why don't you like abortion?

Do you know anyone who does?
I don't.


You may prefer to ask questions but no one is obligated to answer them especially since most of yours are off topic..

 

I disagree. And your opinion is NOT fact! Just in case you didn't realise.

Well you and 'Vegas giants' seem to think that it is some sort of work of art!

When did I say that people ARE obligated to answer them?

 

Yes, taking away a person's right to their own body which is what banning abortion does, IS slavery...slaves were people who had the right to their own bodies taken away.


WTF do you call banning abortion? Freedom and Liberty?

No, I didn't...surgery is an art.... and I did NOT say I liked abortion....see how you have to invent things just to have even the semblance of a point???


HERE'S THE QUESTION YOU AVOIDED:
You don't like abortion...so don't have one....Why don't you like abortion?

You didn't say it, you just pester and pester like a spoiled child with meaningless questions that usually don't have to do with the topic...just like you're doing now.


If you have something to say about abortion I'll respond...maybe...

 

I disagree. And again, your opinion is NOT fact! Just in case you didn't realise. I agree that taking away a person's right to their own body is slavery, but I don't consider the banning of abortion as taking away a person's right to their own body. And slaves were different in that they had direct control over them in the form of masters, and if they didn't do what their master wanted, they would be beaten. It was involuntary servitude. Abortion on the other hand, can be perform illegally without anyone stopping it from happening. It just means that people face legal consequences after the abortion is complete, which I wouldn't agree with.

It is not freedom and liberty if women would be charged with having an illegally abortion, but if the abortion procedure was banned from the health system, that would have no effect on freedom and liberty. People would still be free to use their freedom and liberty to make wise decisions, one of them being not to have sex whenever they want if they don't wish to be pregnant.

Because it is the taking of a viable life.

 

You disagree, you agree...can' you take a firm stance?

Your opinion is not fact....and you can't prove my facts aren't facts..

Banning abortion IS taking away women's right to their own body. That is slavery.

Which is your opinion and mistake because that is exactly what it is...it's forcing women to gestate just like slaves.

NO, slavery is slavery...if someone loses the right to their own body they lose the right to thire own body...there is NO difference between banning abortion and slavery.


Uh, if women have banned abortions they will be punished unjustly, too!!

That's totally irrelevant whether it can be done or not.... if abortion is banned then women have lost the right to their own bodies. And if women can't find clean safe places to have abortions they are forced to suffer and possibly die or are forced, liked SLAVES , to gestate.

Again, ONLY if they are discovered.

Oh, that's right, you don't want people punished for committing crimes...how odd...

That old crap.....sorry but if you still think women should have to give up sex to please you or anyone else you are totally delusional...someday I hope you enter the real world ..

NOPE, women are free to have all the sex and abortions they want....Free people in a free country....

So what?

It doesn't affect you or your life in any way.

You aren't against wars or self defense or executing criminals... want to ban wars ? Want to ban self defense?

 

Speaking of not being capable of responding, you still have unanswered questions on how you would enforce anti abortion laws. Was it too much of a challenge?

 

I take pride in responding to all questions. Which questions of yours have I not answered?

 

How would you enforce abortion laws?

 

And....how would you verify an abortion had taken place?

 

A black market abortion? You couldn't.

 

I have no idea. I'm just saying that the abortion procedure could be removed from the health system.

 

My stance is VERY firm! What have I both agreed and then disagreed on exactly?

I agree that my opinion is not fact, unlike you, who thinks that his opinion is absolute, undisputed FACT!

And you can't prove that your 'facts' (actually opinions) are ACTUALLY FACTS!

Look, you are entitled to your opinion, no one is taking that away from you!

If abortion was not provided under the health system, NOBODY would be forcing women to do anything! Are you saying that they would be forced into having sex somehow?

Correct, IF someone loses the right to their own body then there is NO difference between banning abortion and slavery. I don't believe that this would be the case with banning abortion.

Not if it wasn't illegal to get a black market abortion.

Then it might be a good idea to just give birth, or else just not get pregnant in the first place! They are free to choose. In this respect, I am 100% PRO-CHOICE! Are you not saying that women are sensible enough to choose and make the right choice?

When did I say that it should be a crime to get a black market abortion?

To please me or anyone else? This isn't about pleasing people! Like I said, women should be able to choose whatever they want! They just shouldn't demand that the government always has their back when they make the silly choice to have sex without pregnancy in mind, resulting in pregnancy. Can women not live without constant government support?

No it doesn't. Does it affect your life in any way if someone kills their BORN child? Obviously not, but you wouldn't say that it should be legal to kill born children would you?

Like you said, I'm not against them, so why would I want to ban them?

 

If banned, all abortions would become black market, so what is the point and what about this:

 

Do you mean how would authorities verify it in order to prosecute?

 

Actually how would YOU do so.

Vaginal inspection?
A pregnancy monitoring program?
Perhaps a check off list of progress by individual?

Your answer could indeed be used by authorities to develop a national system, but as this begins with YOU and your opinion we should start there.

 

Well why in the hell would I need to verify it?