Hunter Biden's hard drive had pictures of underage girls and inappropriate text messages

Yeah, Dairy, uh-huh, "Life is good"... IN VENEZUELA.... And we'll move closer and closer toward becoming a neo-socialistic shithole country like Venezuela if Biden/Harris are elected.

Everybody wants to ride in the boat, but nobody wants to row... where do you liberals think a boat like THAT is going...?

 

Straight to HELL!!!!!!

 

LOL

Perhaps, more than Quid Pro Quo Joe's sycophants will ever admit...

 

Geezus. Venezuala. A country named when there's nothing for a rebuttal. Be afraid of what's under you bed. Don't fall for conspiracy theory BS.
An act of desperation.

You think Biden can over ride the constitution. Congress. USSC. And the voters.

Wow, Biden is good eh? Boo!!!!!

 

And all the rest of the MSM?

 

Don't underestimate ol' Joe, Dairy... if he and his minions shovel out enough 'free stuff', he can actually have half the country thinking he can do anything he likes! Who would stop him? Radical Democrats? RINO 'Republicans'...?

Besides, Obama and his cohort (including Biden) overrode the Constitution with no compunction about it at all (Obamacare comes immediately to mind), so why wouldn't ol' Joe imagine that he can also do it, on his own...?

 

Come on Pollycy, Venezuala argument is a cop out.

If you think our system is that flawed, you should work on changing the system.
You have bought into the conspiracy theorists.

ACA has been in place for 10 yrs. If so bad, the R's would show the world their plan and work to implement it. They have nothing.
They want to the USSC do what they are incapable of doing. Ending the ACA, during a pandemic.

And they still want to keep the meat of the ACA, preexisting conditions and support to the poor who can't afford insurance.
So, what's the point of over turning if they want to keep most of it.
Work on improving it.

 

They do what all media does, they follow the money.

 

Oh, the country wouldn't turn into Venezuela overnight, Dairy. But, “As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.” (with apologies to Alexander Pope).

Consider: The relentless slide toward Socialism in this country is pervasive but very slow, Dairy. Nothing happens instantly, but once it takes hold, it 'dries' and become harder than cement and harder than onyx.

Frankie Roosevelt's Social Security is one example, along with Lyin' Lyndon Johnson's Medicare/Medicaid debacle thirty years later. Then Obamacare, which you are so concerned for. The damage that these liberal Democrats do to a country like ours is slowly but relentless, like the damage that slow but persistent water leaks do to a home.

Prior to Obamacare, healthcare insurance was like anything else that you CHOOSE to buy or not buy as a free, independent American citizen. Then, just a few years later, the idea of government subsidized healthcare insurance became an EXPECTATION... "How DARE they even think about taking OUR healthcare away from us...?!" Suddenly, it's THEIR healthcare, even though many of them pay little for it, or, if they're poor, probably NOTHING! That's just one example, but again, once these cancers develop in our national body, there's almost no way to get rid of the damned things.

Even a Conservative like myself could not recommend just ending Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or even all of Obamacare. And yes, I can see the possible benefits of a single-payer system IF (and that's a hell of a big "if") it could be run intelligently, efficiently, and with each participant paying to be a member of the 'customer-base'.

But with a bunch of clowns like corrupt, senile ol' Joe Biden and that vicious, America-hating, hyperliberal creature he'll have as his vice-president running the administration, my hopes -- already twilight-dim -- fade to black....

 

What Biden proposes is a public option, which would put our system to the right of Canada. It may be colorful using Venezuela as a slippery slope, but color is best left to fiction.

 

Using a deceptive nomenclature for socialist government like "public option" just to gain a foothold and undermine actual public healthcare industries is sinister. What a "public option" means is taking money from Medicare that has been paid into by millions of Americans for decades, then giving it away to people who have never paid into the system. This will not only rob seniors of their Medicare, it will simultaneously bankruptcy Medicare, and undermine the private healthcare insurance industry which is intended to rob people of actual choices and take away the current healthcare from 180 million Americans.

 

Nah.

That WON'T happen.

Those alarmist talking points are being pushed by the health care lobby because they see that their gravy train might be ending

 

Pedo pics?

Rudy claims that? He oughta know. He put em there.

He couldn’t resist a nod to the QAnon types

 

Yes, it always starts with the 'camel's nose under the tent' -- but later, as we have seen with all the other cancerous aspects of unbridled, pernicious Socialism, we get a giant pile of 'camel sh!t' -- filling the tent all the way to the seams!

What was wrong with a system where I pay for my healthcare and you pay for yours? It worked well for over 200 years in this country, until Democrats found ways to turn the whole thing upside-down.... And if you think Canada is some paragon for how we in the United States should handle healthcare, then why have so many Canadians (and many from other foreign countries) poured into the United States through the years, willingly, to pay for medical services out of their own pockets?!

Conclusion: this country is turning more and more into a nation of helpless, government-dependent parasites, where everyone wants to 'ride in the boat' BUT NOBODY WANTS TO ROW. Believe me, eventually this is exactly the kind of setup that DOES lead to "Venezuela"!

 

I do pay for my health care. You're rambling.

 

Oh, good... then you aren't on Obamacare or Medicaid, or some other government-run handout welfare/subsidized system involving hospitals, doctors, dentists, or the medicines that they prescribe? Then good for you! You probably share my viewpoint! But then why do you think I'm "rambling". What part did I mention that was not true?!

 

I agree, Republicans are weak when it comes to healthcare. They are against what we have now, but they don’t front any meaningful and unified plan on this issue.
I think many would support extending Medicare as catastrophic coverage with deductible amounts in $10k-$20k range.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind universal healthcare, but Biden isn’t the guy who will be able to get it done and race baiting, rioting, and looting pissed me off enough to vote for trump.

 

Yes, it always starts with the 'camel's nose under the tent' -- but later, as we have seen with all the other cancerous aspects of unbridled, pernicious Socialism, we get a giant pile of 'camel sh!t' -- filling the tent all the way to the seams!

I give you a C+ in creative writing.

 

It makes sense that Hunter had pedo crap on his computer. His dad is a creeper around kids and the corrupt weirdo apple didn't fall far from China Joe's tree.

 

Here's where I think you are wrong on healthcare.

There is no right to healthcare in the Constitution. And for good reason. We don't want the federal government intervening in our own personal healthcare matters. Whatever happened to a person's right to privacy? Wasn't Roe v Wade established this precedent based on a right to privacy?

This gives the federal government power over life and death, who gets care, who doesn't get care and how much. It also allows people to be irresponsible with their lives. They can spend and waste money all they want without having to pay their own way, budget and be responsible with their finances. If you can't afford to pay for healthcare you need to work harder, get a better paying job so you can afford it. Quit being lazy saps making hard working people pay for your irresponsible behavior with their own tax dollars.

 

... you are spot on.

NOTHING that forces the labor of another human being is a "human right".

 

My salary is 6 digits and I also have income from gigs.
It’s not about being lazy or some feelings. Before Obamacare I remember seeing catastrophic insurance coverage with deductibles in $10k-$20k selling for $60-$70 per month. If insurances can pull this off for such funding, government can do something similar - an extra payroll tax on biweekly paycheck of $40 won’t break anyone’s bank and will absolutely ensure that no one dies of stupidity (lack of ability to earn). The insurance industry would continue to exist as secondary insurances selling coverage that pretty much pays for deductible.
So, my preferred method would work very well.

I wouldn’t mind universal healthcare if done properly and allowing for private practices to continue to exist, which wouldn’t completely kill insurance coverage.

As for constitution - while it doesn’t guarantee anyone healthcare, I do agree with the “greater good logic”, and to be constitutional I think all you need is to provide an opt out option - if you don’t want to pay then you provide proof of continuous insurance coverage.

Even though I support Trump, I’m quite liberal when it comes to social issues. My views didn’t spoil, the D party rotted throughout - instead of following the idea of social good, they make us hate each other for things we don’t control, like race.

 

I understand you completely. When it comes to healthcare and many other issues, the federal government has absolutely no jurisdiction. The 10th Amendment specifically says that anything not delegated specifically to the federal government is reserved to the States and the people. We have 50 states who can regulate this to whatever degree the people will tolerate. If they can't they can move to a different state. If the feds have total control, there is no place to move. There are three layers of government below the federal government, state, county and cities. Each can have various programs to aid those less fortunate. And, there is another option which is private charities. Even Go Fund Me. There are multiple charities that do great things, American Cancer Society, Schriners Hospitals, Catholic charities. My own local hospital has a charity that helps people that can't pay their hospital bills funded by businesses and individuals in our community.

 

We might already have universal healthcare without realizing it.
I live in Illinois and a few years ago I was between jobs briefly, but my wife was pregnant and we got scared and applied for state help. I wasn’t hiding my income and even sent them the copy of my severance payout, which was quite large. They still gave us absolutely free health insurance, and because my wife gave birth, she carried it for free for entire year and my kids are still on it.
The point of my personal story is this - many states have healthcare programs but don’t advertise them. To find out you literally need to go somewhere, stand in line for a few hours, talk with the state employee, and even they have no idea how it works - they “punch in data in computer and it tells them the result”.
Maybe we just need a small federal agency that tracks these healthcare programs, figures out their math, and make that data available for everyone so people know where to go, how to file, and what to expect. There are tons of people out there who think that once they lose their job and they are sick then they are dead. I don’t know how it works in other states, but if they have the system similar to that in Illinois then we all already have universal healthcare and don’t realize that we do.

 

What hard drive, what computer, listen to the left, it doesn't really exist.