I am very lonely.

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  1. CCitizen

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    I am Jewish -- I visit an Orthodox Synagogue, but rarely.
     
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    Do planets have souls? Planets do not have consciousness.
     
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    More likely just bacteria living on very small dust particles. But only on giants 9 -- 15 Jupiter masses.
     
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    I am under a moderatorial order not to display my 1-800 Freedom Voice number on Political Forums.
     
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    I'm afraid that I don't know what a"1-800 Freedom Voice number" is but did anything I recommended seem might it might be helpful in making friends?
    I assume you have some friends.
    I lost a very good friend of 66 years today to cancer so appreciate your good friends while you can.
     
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    How would they be violating secular law unless through actions?
     
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    Of course it's actions. I was curious about the dance around "certain religion". Was it one of the Abrahamic religions? Eastern? Something else?
     
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    Excellent point.
    Being a good listener falls under the category of being a good friend. I suggested that to have good friends one first needs to be a good friend & being a good listener is one of the things that defines a good friend.
    On the other hand, someone who is solely interested in their own lives & problems generally aren't good friends & bad friends are worse than no friends at all.
    Good friends are the most valuable assets a person can have so I believe it's wise to value them accordingly.
     
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    I can understand CCitizen's issue. I have much difficulty making friends today since there simply aren't others with my same ideological views. Everyone is either too far Right, to far Left, or in between but too soft on opposition.
     
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    I didn't realize or think about the amount of loneliness in today's society and am sorry that it exists. It is probably difficult to express that you'd like to have more friends.
    If you're interested in some ideas that have been helpful to me in the past, please see my Post #57. I've been lucky enough to make friends pretty easily whether at summer camp as a kid or later in the military or when I moved to Europe.
    The only down side about having good friends is losing them like I did yesterday morning when a friend of 66 years died of cancer.

    I wish you good luck in making, keeping & valuing many good friends.
     
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    Start walking. Walk a quarter of the way there the first week, and half way there the second week.
     
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    100% agree.
     
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    Yes, but waiting til you find the root cause is just stalling. While searching for 'the reason', you can be walking.
     
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    So bend to fit whoever is available. Friendship is about being a good listener - elevating others. It's not the Leopard Lodge.
     
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    It's a result of teaching kids that they're Special and Individual, and that everyone ought to regard and respect their every passing thought and interest. We no longer teach our kids how to be small, humble, and accommodating.

    The great lesson for youngens today, is to watch elderly people amongst random strangers. They are almost always kind to everyone, and don't demand your focus on their stuff. They will listen to you with patience, even if they cannot contribute. They know how to be a good companion.
     
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    Fantastic post. Couldn't agree more.
     
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    Thank you crank. Though I usually only bend to fit in when it comes to people I already know. Family for example. That could potentially cause weakness in standing by my ideals as it is. So I'm fairly hesitant to associate with more of the "non-totalitarian syncretic" population. I don't actually know what to call my ideology, or what to call all of you either. I tried to think of a collective name for the "democracy/freedom/liberty" type ideologies. Essentially everyone, liberal or conservative, that agrees with the concepts found in the United States' Bill of Rights. Even if they are from another country. Something easy such as the terms "Fascist" or "Communist". Both the Left and Right have certain viewpoints I like, but their isn't an "extremist" group with my specific combination of ideals. A population of over 7 billion and their isn't one political group I can be a part of. I would be happy to listen to and elevate others who are like me though.

    Also, what is the Leopard Lodge?
     
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    I appreciate that Grau. And sorry to hear about your friend.
     
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    And it has been proven that the dangers of that surgery, failures of the devices, outweigh the benefits and the same effects can be achieved by alternative diet changes.
     
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    Well not every religion involves actions which violate the law. But I could certainly change that to "certain practices of ANY religion which violates the law."
     
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    I don't know what causes some people to feel lonely & have a shortage of friends. Some people have medical issues that preclude getting out & getting around other people have parents with jobs that require frequent moving (i.e. the military)
    What causes loneliness is not so much the issue at this point as what fixes it & I've weighed in with my 2 cents on Post #57.

    I'm not sure at what point someone is considered "elderly" as I am 67 & probably considered ancient, I suppose, by 20 -30 year old people.
    While you're right about many elderly ( those older than I), some are more attentive & selfless than others & the people who have expressed loneliness in this thread may want friends closer to their age group.
    Being significantly overweight and living in a rural area can hinder the ability to make friends however one of the most socially active people I know is both and, not surprisingly, an excellent listener with plenty of friends.
    I also know of a few people that have had success with some of the Internet Dating services.

    After reading a few Posts on this thread, the consensus seems to be that being a good listener is a good way to keep good friends but the problem for several Posters on this thread seems to be in meeting good friends.
     
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    In High School, it was my recipe for success.
     
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    Condolences. I never had close friends.
     
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    WOW! Whatever your ideological views are, they are shared by at least a few hundred thousand people in USA. But online acquaintances are hardly friends.
     
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