I am very lonely.

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  1. ESTT

    ESTT Well-Known Member

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    Online acquaintances would be acceptable as a start. It is actually much harder than it sounds. Even in the United States for example. Very few people oppose the concepts found in the First Amendment, and those that do, have a different version than mine of what ideal censorship is. I also doubt many people believe in getting rid of ideological opposition by any means necessary. Then there is the fact that every nation considered a dictatorship also doesn't share my views. If such a place existed, I would have tried to be there by now. I have trouble finding others like myself because the political spectrum (as well as the political compass) are based on generalizations. I think a more helpful political "spectrum" would be in the form of a checklist rather than drawing out a physical line or graph.

    Thank you though, CCitizen. I'm sure that there are some in the U.S. who share my views. The only problem is they either don't share all the same ones, or have a few that are contradictary to mine. What I look for in a person or group ranges from politics, to sexuality, to even personal opinions on a wide variety of seemingly insignificant topics. One's opinion on certain sucultures for example, is a catagory. Almost more like a psychological match rather than simply broad political concepts. That's the level of specificity I'm looking for. It's frustrating because there isn't exactly any service, online or otherwise, that matches people on that level. I've actually even considered using the "deep web" at times.
     
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    Then perhaps visit more frequently? Perhaps they have various Bible study groups or social groups.
     
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  3. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the sound of it, you have only two(2) options:

    Accept the simple fact you will never find anyone matching your exacting criteria and deal with being alone or be like everyone else on Earth who allows for compromise to find happiness. Choose wisely because it will be the rest of your life.
     
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    Thanks for your condolences. The funeral was yesterday but I still can't believe that my friend of 66 years is gone. At least I reconnected with good friends I hadn't seen in years.

    Not many of us are eager to share personal details on an open forum like this so it's difficult to tailor advice to someone in your situation. So far, it seems like many well meaning Posters have offered what seems like sincere advice which, alone, would make me feel a little better.
    You mentioned earlier that you don't drive which is a significant impediment when it comes to being socially active as you already know. You also mentioned that you are a bit large. A start to dealing with both issues would to be to call a nearby support group
    like "Overeaters Anonymous" and asking if a member could pick you up or make arrangements with Uber for a ride.

    From personal experience of dealing with many messes (most of them self made), I can say that the absolutely hardest part of overcoming any difficulty is making the first step.
    I wish you luck



    "Overeaters Anonymous"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overeaters_Anonymous
     
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  5. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for sharing! My views are also very unpopular in Anglosphere. I believe that in USA there is a lot of gender-based discrimination against men. Many women and some men would personally attack me for my views. Most people around the World who know about life in USA would agree that men are discriminated here.

    What am I doing in Science section. I am writing a Dystopian novel about USA 2061 -- at least there are many scientific points which can be discussed here.
     
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    I do not drive.
     
  7. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. I am still looking for telephone friends -- not much success yet.
     
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    Public transport? Or if you became more acquainted with the Synagogue, you could arrange a lift from people to attend various events.
     
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    I have to walk a mile to bus stop.
     
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    This in not meant to be mean, but if you will not even walk a mile to work on your problems then you are not deserving of help. Basically it almost seems this thread is just a place for you to complain and any suggestions provided are dismissed by you. Unless YOU wake up and do something to help yourself then no one else should bother either. This is the second time you have complained about walking a mile which is what you MUST do to lose the weight you also complain of and which I believe is the underlying issue behind all of this.
    Get off your ass and do something to help yourself or Shut the front umbrella.
     
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  11. CCitizen

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    OUCH! I need to do more work, but walking to bus is not part of it. Even now I should have been writing a mathematical work.
     
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    Very well...enjoy your maths and quit yer bithchin'

    Have A Nice Day:???:
     
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    Door to door service?
     
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    Don't feel badly about not being able to walk a mile, now.
    For many people walking even short distances is either difficult or impossible due to orthopedic issues in the feet, knees and / or hip joints & lower back pain.
    For example, I've got Charcot Joint disease in my feet, bad knees & two 20 year old hip replacements. I incurred this partial list of maladies primarily from age, bicycle racing, 4 motorcycle wrecks, boxing, wrestling, football, jumping out of planes & helicopters & walking throughout Europe, the Mid East etc.
    However, I'm going to the podiatrist this afternoon, do other exercises, walk until it hurts & am lucky to have many good & supportive friends who would help out with my other medical issues (cancer & heart issues) if I would let them.
    If you can't drive or walk long distances, there are also personal trainers who will come to your home & help design an exercise program tailored to your situation.
    The heaviest weight you'll ever have to pick up is the phone to make that first call to the personal trainer.
    It seems like a lack of mobility is one of your more significant impediments so either learning to drive or getting hooked up with Uber would be very helpful in beginning to overcome the things that are holding you back from a happier existence.
    Again, good luck
     
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    Thank you tecoyah. I am a bit surprised, with over 7 billion others there are not even at least, maybe three or four matches somewhere. Compromise is hard for me, but not impossible. The person or group can't be too different from me though. However, choosing to be alone did cross my mind.
     
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    Your welcome. And I once wanted to write as well. It's difficult, but I wish you luck.
     
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    IF you managed to MEET 7 billion people likely you would find "The One", alas you cannot. Compromise is perhaps not the best word...maybe "open". As with every relationship we all learn and adapt to each other....this sometimes leads to an appreciation for things we never knew and people we would have avoided. Life is a series of emotional risks and often painful lessons are required to get to an educated and worthwhile risk...but you will NEVER get to it, let alone know it when you see it if you hide from the experience of life.

    Life is meant to be LIVED!
     
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    Thank you for sharing. I have Moderate Autism and Moderate Depression.
     
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    In USA, where my opinion is unpopular, at least a few hundred thousand people could be my friends. Unfortunately, there are no friend finding sites. There are tons of dating sites -- not interested.
     
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    I see. In my searches, I've never seen much as far as websites for making friends only, but here is a link for some friend finding "apps" as they call them.
    https://www.bustle.com/articles/175...eting-friends-because-the-options-are-endless

    Here is one website though:
    https://www.meetup.com/?_cookie-check=eep5s2WS-wiXD9eR
     
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    That is quite dark in a way. The the thought that there may be others like me out there, but we are all cut off from each other due to circumstance. Thank you for your advice, I will keep in mind as I do plan on meeting some new people in the near future. If it means a better life, I may be willing to take the risks.
     
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    Not so much dark as simple reality....it would take longer than you could live to spend 5 minutes meeting 7billion people. As I have said before....develop a taste for coffee and frequent a coffee shop. I have met many very good people there, including my wife.
     
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    You are very lucky to be married. I'll see what kind of people I meet in local places. As a matter of fact, I think I will try one of the coffee shops near me. Conversation can be hard, as I can't say everything I think around my family. Let alone someone I just met. But I'm sure if I slowly bring up some topics, I'll know where the person stands. Actually years ago I met some people who are part of a subculture I'm interested in. They were fun to talk to in a way, but definately not "syncretic totalitarian" material.
     
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    The key is to relax and not consider this a task. Go into these situations knowing you are comfortable with yourself and avoid deep discussion until it is instigated by your new friend. Discuss non controversial interests and make occasional but brief eye contact (this is very important) and a smile is critical.
    Spend some time in confidence building as well, KNOW you are worthy and important, do not just think it. Conceit is thinking you are all that...confidence is knowing it.
     
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