"I don't want Syria to become another Iraq"

You cannot read the news and avoid confronting words of warmongers in the West salivating at the prospect of shedding more blood in Syria,

Just the talk about possible recent chemical weapons attacks unleashes the lust for more bloodshed.

Here is a sample headline:

"US ready to launch Syria strike, says Chuck Hagel"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23847839

But, when I read the full article, I learn what the real fears are of the people in Syria today, not fears from chemical weapons strikes from within Syria, but fears that the West, as a consequence of all the propaganda about chemical weapons use, will unleash attacks upon them.

"People are haunted by the possibility of a Western military strike on Syria, discussion of which is dominating the headlines of satellite channels.

"I don't want Syria to become another Iraq... Enough bloodshed," cried one Syrian woman.

"We, and thousands like us across Syria, will face any country that tries to attack us," threatened a young man, pointing at his weapon, which he uses to protect his neighbourhood. "These are Syria's problems and it is up to us, Syrians, to solve them.""

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23847839

I share in the fears of Syrians today, I do not want Syria to become another Iraq, either.

I do not want my country, the US, to commit acts of aggression and war crimes in Syria the way we did in Iraq.

I do not want US actions in Syria to lead to the death of 1 over 1 million in Syria, the way our acts led to the deaths of over 1 million in Iraq.

I do not want the US to cause injuries and deaths to the innocent in Syria, as we did din Iraq.

So, I urge all to do all you can personally do to prevent Syria from becoming another Iraq, write your Congressmen and government officials and leaders do all you can personally do to prevent further involvement by the West with fighting in Syria. Talk about what is happening. Pray for peace.

Let's do all we can, all of us, to save lives in Syria, not contribute to more bloodshed there.

Sherri

 

Nothing will stop the Syrian Arab Army in its fight against the forces of wahhabis and terrorism. No NATO attack will change that !

 

That's the plan though- and after Syria it's Lebanon and Iran. It's a bizarre situation when people in the West have to look to Russia and China for peace. We have allowed the military-industrial complex to take control.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRvfl-RL718&feature=youtube_gdata_player. And we have the US fixing its Intelligence to blame the Syrian government for the recent chemical attacks. EXACTLy like the US fixed its Intelligence to falsely tell them there were WMDs in Iraq.

 

You think the US is going to invade Syria?

 

Unfortunately Syria is already like Iraq. Country has been completely ruined. We can safely assume that the number of dead people reached 150,000 by now, double the number of injured, millions of refugees, economy totally ruined, billions of dollars lost, billions needed to rebuild the country, infrastructure has been systematically targeted by medieval savages who invaded Syria etc...etc...The whole of the Middle East will be in flames if the U.S/UK/NATO foreign policy makers continue with their irrational policies.

 

We call this wishful thinking in the US lol.

 

Any intervention is madness - but it suits the agenda of the Zionists, the Saudis and all the Iran-haters in the West. How far are we allowed to hear the Syrian case? This is a remake of Iraq. 'When will they ever learn'?

 

How about the war against the 75% Sunni Syrian population that overwhelmingly supports the removal of Assad? Like those guys from the video, likely Syrian sunnis, firing weapons at military aircraft that have been bombing them in their homes. You cant kill them all.

 

This started with the Syrian population demonstrating against Assad. He responded by shooting them in the streets. Then a portion of the Syrian army defected, joined with Sunni Syrians and began an armed revolt against Assad. Throwing some foreign arab fighters in the mix doesnt change what is a civil war, into a foreign invasion.

 

Obama doesn't want that, either, but he is powerless in the face of the continuous AIPAC onslaught. You should know that our foreign policy is formulated in Tel Aviv, not in DC.

 

If that nonsense propaganda line that 75% of Sunnis are overwhelmingly against the Syrian regime was true or even half-true the regime would've collapsed long ago. On the contrary, according to NATO own intelligence reports 70% of Syrians is firmly behind the regime. Hence the military attack in the pipeline in order to change the dynamics by sheer force. The majority of soldiers in Syrian Arab Army are Sunnis. But I guess it is intellectually challenging for you to grasp that verifiable fact of real life.

 

Its the Russian and Chinese military complex that is supplying Assad. Without it Assad would have been gone by now and Syria would have been in the position now experienced in Tunisia and Egypt, in the process of establishing new governments.

 

Okay....the Syrian people (some) complain that we do not do something, while others complain we might, and still others will blame the west (America) for any possible result if we do. There is no scenario that ends well for my country, we did not attack the Syrian people nor do we have any business playing in their backyard.

It is time for the United States to stop trying to police the world, and high time for the entire Middle East to grow the hell up.

 

I said 75% of the population is sunni, the overwhelming majority of them opposed to Assad. And the region has a long history of dictators who rule over people who overwhelmingly oppose them. Assad is President because his daddy was, not because the people support him. Its not like they can vote him out of office.

 

Oh really? And you have done polls among the Syrian Sunni's whether they support the rebels? Please share with me such a source.

75% of Syrian Population is Sunni. That number includes 12-15% Kurdish population, which hates the rebels and al-qaeda. Kurds fight against your beloved FSA/ Al Nusra/ Al-Qaeda.

You have the remaining 60% Sunni left. Moderate and Secular Sunnis (like me and my family) are pro-Assad and pro-SAA. The Anti-Assad Sunnis come from poorer, less educated, more religious areas such as Ar-Raqqah, Deir ez Zor, East Aleppo, Damascus suburbs. Then there are theDruze areas in South East of Syria which hate the terrorists and extremist Sunnis.

Rebels and terrorists in East Aleppo are very upset that the Secular and moderate Sunnis in West Aleppo did not support them, they instead supported the SAA.

If "overwhelming" # of Sunnis were against Assad, then he would be overthrown long time ago. The fact is that moderate, educated, middle class, business owners, secular Sunnis are pro-government.

Oh yeah, and Syrian Army to THIS day is majority Sunni. Several of my relatives (all Sunnis) are serving in the SAA and NDF.

 

And your statement is based on what? Your personal opinion. NATO data and sources say otherwise. It appears that Assad has moral popular support than any western politician. They can only dream of it.


http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/05/31/nato-data-assad-winning-the-war-for-syrians-hearts-and-minds/
NATO data: Assad winning the war for Syrians’ hearts and minds

Special to WorldTribune.com

LONDON — After two years of civil war, support for the regime of
Syrian President Bashar Assad was said to have sharply increased.

NATO has been studying data that told of a sharp rise in support for
Assad. The data, compiled by Western-sponsored activists and organizations,
showed that a majority of Syrians were alarmed by the Al Qaida takeover of
the Sunni revolt and preferred to return to Assad, Middle East Newsline reported.

A Syrian man waves his national flag bearing the image of President Bashar Assad. /Marwan Naamani/AFP/Getty Images
A man waves the Syrian flag bearing the image of President Bashar Assad. /Marwan Naamani/AFP/Getty Images

“The people are sick of the war and hate the jihadists more than Assad,”
a Western source familiar with the data said. “Assad is winning the war
mostly because the people are cooperating with him against the rebels.”

The data, relayed to NATO over the last month, asserted that 70 percent
of Syrians support the Assad regime. Another 20 percent were deemed neutral and the remaining 10 percent expressed support for the rebels.

 

Right. And all those foreign jihadis, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, wahhabis, salafis, takfiris, Chechen terrorists, would all magically dissapear and let Syrians go on with their lives. It's not like they want to establish an Islamic Caliphate in Syria. It is not like Taliban has 200 members to Syria and have them establish a future Taliban Syria. It's not like there are 20,000 jihadis fighting in Syria from every country in the world. No no, it's not like that at all !

Please educate me regarding Russian and Chinese Military Complex supplying Assad. Name me one piece of equipment that they have supplied to Assad. Give me a short list of anything they delivered since 2011. Just one! Which tanks, apc, helicopter, airplane and rifles have they delivered to Syria???

 

Yes alot of us in the Middle East hate the Islamists with a passion. How anything run by an Islamic fundamentalist govt be called a democracy is beyond me.

The west should be kissing the feet of the secularists and moderates in Egypt and Syria for fighting a battle that the west claims needs to be fought on battlefields abroad so it isn't fought at home. Instead they are telling egyptians not to go on the streets to demonstrate against the govt of Morsi and his MB crazies and are threatening to invade Syria for fighting against these religious zealots. The west is actively supporting the very people who are their enemy in the war on terror.
The hypocrisy is the worse thing. Enough with the rhetoric on human rights and democracy- those of us living here in the middle east are not stupid and we get it. You could care less - what you do care about is geopolitical posturing, oil, and the security of Israel. I know because our diplomats have told me that very thing. BTW I am american. And no I don't hold dual citizenship and I am white, anglo saxon in case you were wondering. And know this, the egyptians do not dislike americans but the very much dislike and hold disdain for our foreign policy.

 

Being opposed to the Assad regime doesnt require support for rebels. At this point its become a choice of lesser evils.

 

When did the "west" ever do that?

 

I doubt that we ever have, but we certainly should.

 

They wouldnt even be there. Notice how this didnt happen to any great extent in Egypt or Tunisia?

 

Exactly ! Because the West and S. Arabia + Qatar poured the gas on the fire in the very beginning. Saudis and Qatar exported all the foreign jihadis into Syria to help get the civil war going. They did not do that in Egypt because Egypt is an USA Ally and Saudis supported Mubarak. In Syria they have no limits on what they will do because Syria is not their friend!

2 days ago they admitted to sending Chechens and foreign jihadis to Syria when they had negotiations with Russia. Saudi Prince threatened Russia to stop helping Syria or else they would give green light for Chechen terrorists to attack Sochi Olympics!!!

 

No, the gasoline on the fire was Assads brutal crackdown on his own people trying to suppress the protests. Before any involvement of foreigners. It was months of military attacks on protesting Syrians that fueled the fire that brought in foreign involvement.