I endorse Donald Trump, because he's a winner who's not in the elite's pockets

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  1. bwk

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    Be careful what you wish for; http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/18/europe/uk-parliament-debates-trump-ban/

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    I had no idea he used rapists and murderers to build his projects?
     
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    :roflol::roflol: Cut me some slack will you. These last two have been a little bit more than I can deal with.
     
  3. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    So, you think you share life experience with billionaire Trump?

    Seriously?
     
  4. Independent Thinker

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    Versus the ideological pandering liars like Clinton, Cruz, and the GOP establishment? Maybe Bernie isn't a pandering liar, but his idiotic policies would destroy the economy.
     
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    A heck of a lot more than someone who's been in congress for 30 years.
     
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Yeah, trump isn't in the elite's pockets because he is the elites pockets...
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    Then elect strong representatives - representatives who have proven to be capable!

    You shouldn't use your method to select a plumber, let alone a president.
     
  8. WillReadmore

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    Such a candidate has repeatedly convinced the majority that they are being well represented.

    How is that a negative??

    Plus, we do not have that option this time around, so what are you talking about?
     
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    He's not in THEIR pocket ????? He IS the elite!!! Did you think he's just some average middle classer :eekeyes: :omg: He IS the pocket! He owns the POCKET! WHERE have you been!!! Do you KNOW who and what he is ???!!!!~~!


    A. Donald is the elite.

    B. You don't want him in their pocket but it's OK if HE IS the elite .

    WHAT!!???!!!
     
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    Picking plumbers isn't comparable to this. Do you have an argument at all?

    You're right, that's why Congress has such a high approval rating. Clearly getting reelected isn't about that.

    Republicans all over the country despise McConnell and yet he gets reelected. It's about convincing enough people to vote, it's a joke.

    We don't?

    Pretty sure Hillary hasn't had a job outside politics in quite some time.
     
  11. WillReadmore

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    You are misunderstanding congressional ratings.

    It's certainly true that congress gets panned when you ask people what they think of congress.

    BUT, when you ask people what they think of THEIR congressmen, people say they are pretty darn happy.

    Note that McConnell had a 6 point margin of victory in his last election - to his 5th term. People in his state clearly like him regardless of what you or I might think of him.
     
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    Trump isn't in the elites' pocket because he *is* an elite.
     
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    please prove that if you may. I have doubts about him but he sure as hell beats the alternative.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    I said: "He IS the pockets. And, he has NO experience in elective office (which is certainly NOT like being a CEO), clearly has no experience in policy issues, and certainly has NO idea what it's like to be in middle America."

    Then you ask for PROOF??

    He brags about being the pockets - hugely wealthy and influential of politicians. The LAST thing he admits to is knowing what it means for a middle American household to make the mortgage payment.

    He certainly has won zero elections and has held zero positions in government.

    And, not even his allies think he knows jack about policy. In fact, his policy has changed weekly. And, he can't hold his position when meeting with others - a recent example being Ryan.
     
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    That nails it!! Electing Trump would be disastrous for this nation!!
     
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    My bet is that Trump would be easily controlled by congress and by the institutions that comprise the Washington establishment. He just doesn't carry the policy direction and commitment that could set a different direction.

    It will be like when Trump met with Ryan recently. Trump will change. Ryan will not.

    But, it will be carried out throughout government. Trump isn't going to change what the DoD, DoS, DoJ or any other department will come up with. Changing what they do requires a consistent and committed policy direction.

    Trump would be the perfect establishment president, as there really isn't any part of the establishment that he could possibly oppose successfully.
     
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    Trump isn't in the elite's pockets because he is the elite. He owns the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) pockets.

    What makes you think that a man who is used to owning billion dollar companies is anything but the elite? And the worst thing is, he's an example of why the elite don't deserve to be the elite, because he's completely incompetent. He's run several companies (including a casino) into bankruptcy, and yet he is still wealthy and powerful. That's because life isn't fair and your position on the top or bottom has little to do with your personal merits.

    His big achievement has been looking stupid. It just so happens that talking like a raving lunatic with a third grade vocabulary is what gets votes, because we've endured so many generations of propaganda targeting that part of the psychology that this is simply what we're wired for now.

    If you look at this man, a man who has repeatedly failed, a man who has lived an easy life because his daddy gave him money, a man who is so desperately insecure that he still agonizes over an insult to his hands that happened 20 years ago, as an honest and competent man of the people, you've been successfully lied to.
     
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    What has Hillary accomplished?
     
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    And then there's the 100 million dollar pledge from Sheldon Adelson
     
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    In my view, Trump has "FAIL" written all over him. :(
     
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    What makes you think I support Hillary?

    I think the entire election is a scam. I think that we need to organize outside of the political system entirely and use mass action to force out oppression and corruption.
     
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    While I see Trump as an unacceptable choice for President, it's only because of the alternatives that I will support him.
    Maybe we would all be better off if we were to divide into two or more Nations as we (the people) are incapable of applying any control at all over this behemoth we call our Federal government.
     
  23. 9/11 was an inside job

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    Yeah I am not sold on Trump either that he is the answer to americans problems. Not like I was with Ron Paul.HOWEVER one common thing him and Paul do have is that they both care enough about america to realise the fed needs to be audited.

    http://www.infowars.com/trump-calls-for-auditing-the-fed/

    The fed is an evil organization that needs to be abolished.With Trump there is that hope.

    I have my doubts on Trump but he sure as hell beats the alternative in HELLERY. we already know what we WILL get with her.

    A mass murderer who will serve the special interests of the bankers,has ties to mafia crimelords and will continue to serve the bankers and not the people same as every president since LBJ has and same as Obama and Bush have and same as Romney does.

    as far as we know,Trump is not part of the establishment they all are so at LEAST with Trump there is hope for america to get back from being the facist dictatership country it became when the fed was created in 1913.:thumbsup:
     

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