'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

I have ben trying to be very polite. i do not get answers from you.

There is nothing relevant to what is hapenning in you pic.

It is not different that from a Catholic who'd show you an icon as a proof of God.

You'd say ( if you were polite) - it all cool, but you believe in one things and I believe in other things, as long we do not force our beliefs on others it is all cool.

M. cycles is a belief, a hypothesis, an idea. M. cycles is a belief, a hypothesis, an idea. Refering to it is no different from saying, this new speculation is valid because an old speculation is valid.

That's why anybody who knew what M. cycles was threw the IPCC report into garbage even if the 4th grade pic of the balance of earth was not already convincing that not was garbage.


Before you ask for a polite look at yourself in a mirror, it is not polite not to anwer, it is not polite to answer a question with a question, and there are many other things which are not polite.

 

1. One of most inpolite things is to post some thing which has no reference and no comments and to ask to refute it.

2. then not reply to a refute.

3. or not reply exactly to statements of the refute.

4. then go on another tread and re post the same 20 times refuted thing.

5. then not reply to a refute.

6. or not reply exactly to statements of the refute.

7. then go on another tread and re post the same 20 times refuted thing.

8. then not reply to a refute.

9.
or not reply exactly to statements of the refute.

10. then go on another tread and re post the same 20 times refuted thing.




11. then to post another garbage.

12. then follow the operator GOTO 1.

 

That is because you are on my "Don't bother reading" list

When and if you make sense I will reply but until then I won't - life is too short to waste

 

Brilliantly you have shown that natural causes can force the climate to change. Stupidly, you have posted not one shred of evidence that natural forces actually are causing this particular climate change. Which is what you said you had. But which you don't.

Don't you even read your own links? If you did, you would have seen this:

 

So you're saying it's just speculation that more solar energy in the summer causes more snow melt, and just speculation that less solar energy in the summer causes less snow melt?

I'm saving this quote, as I'm sure it'll come in handy.

 

Actually, that's not impolite at all, it's standard procedure. Because if one actually has a reference, then such postings are easy to refute.

What's impolite is to claim to have a reference to support your view, and then not post the reference even after repeatedly being asked to do so.

What's not polite is offering to apologize if you can't find that reference, and then not apologizing when you actually can't find that reference.

Does that remind you of anyone?

 

What is that?

you don't bother to read but you know that I don't make sense. you make a lot of sense as always.

http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...l-duped-climate-change-22.html#post1060972016

Are you saying that all things are known to science?

 

I don't need to be me reminded.

I said:

"Either quote your question 1 and post one link ( just one link will be enough to it ) or accept that you had never asked question 1 when you stated “back to my own question 1 and apologize."

You run away. Go to the tread and show that you have something to say on this forum.

 

Yes they do, and the changes are happening constantly. They didn't just stop one day and allow Man to "take-over", as some here seem to suggest...

 

My point EXACTLY. Assuming you are smarter and know better than all those scientists is also incredibly arrogant. This is why no sane person takes rabid denialists educated on the internet seriously. Like I said, rationality for the layman, scientific debate for the experts.

 

We may have more to worry about from that asteroid that will swing back around next February.

 

So what is causing this "change"

Things do not change by themselves - not traffic lights, not broken fuses and not underpants

So what is causing this change?

 

Is that the one that is spreading the fairy dust that is causing climate change?

 

Seems your side has already declared Victory, and sees no reason to have the Debate...

But I see you skirt the real issue. That even if we are making it warmer, let us hope we can make enough of a difference to avert the next Ice Age, because Mankind is much more able to adapt to a warming climate than one that is colder. The reason we are able to sustain the vast number of people who now walk the Earth is because more and more land is becoming able to sustain crops, and the crops themselves grow larger and faster with the increased CO2 in the atmosphere.

Seems to me that if we are able to affect it in any way we should be trying to increase the "average" temperature to not include an Ice Age anywhere in the near to not-too-distant future, And if we are somehow able to avert any (Ice Ages) that may happen in the "Natural Cycle", then I would say we should continue any such behavior that helped us avert something that would prove to be cataclysmic for the entire Human Race, if it were to happen.

 

It is called a "cycle", it has happened since the begining of time...

And it will continue to happen long after we are gone.

We are coming out of an Ice Age, to a tipping point, that will likely send us heading back into lower temperatures. If we are in fact able to 'heat up' the atmosphere, I would suggest we do it before the next Ice Age comes... We are much better at adapting to increasing temperatures and increasing CO2 levels, than we would be if they were both decreasing...

So careful what you wish for.

 

Just giving it the name of a "cycle" does not explain what is driving it. There has to be a reason, some cause of the cycle

Is it the ocean currents
Orbital changes
Solar output
Albedo
Volcanoes
Someone's dirty undies..........

 

Or maybe pffffffffffffffffffffft , (which can lead ta dirty u-trau), eh: Darlin'?

 

And those things yet unknown.

 

It is a combination of many things...

But something tells me that, if all of the Planets are heating up at once, then something that affects them all must have something to do with it. Logic dictates such a response.

Now, I wonder what they might all have in common?!?!?!?!?!?

 

Care to address the "Humans survive rising temps better..." theory, or are you simply going to skip such an important point?

 

Oh! Dear!

The old myth about "Mars is warming too" but this time I do not even get as much as that!

Just so I can be specific - Solar source or Cosmic rays - which one do you think MIGHT be responsible for the mythical "warming of the planets"?

 

Care to address the huge death toll from recent heat waves??

 

You are talking about a small fraction of the total people...

An Ice Age would kill a fairly large percentage of the overall, not just a small fraction of them.

You understand that, right?

 

And you understand that without a trigger an ice age is as likely to happen as a rain of golden fairies??

Ice ages do not happen overnight - unless there is a meteorite strike big enough to wipe out most of the life on Earth - at which point survival will be moot

 

Didn't you know Republicans are allowed to suspend the laws of physics?