I hope we Democrats show DUE PROCESS restraint, when we deal with the Republican treachery.

There is a great likelihood, of seeking revenge, over and above DUE PROCESS. The chants of locking up all those not right wing could result in our acting THUSLY. In equal and opposite reaction.

What we MUST do, is address the checks and balances, that DEPEND on the DECENCY of the pol. We cannot afford SHOULDS. We must have MUSTS.

The purpose of throwing the right wingers that have tried to destroy our democracy in prison, is not punishment. Not to THOSE ****ing loser hater freaks. But to those that might try likewise.

Already, we have Kim Kardashian, declaring that she will get her lawyer sheepskin. The purpose of this, is to claim qualification for political office. Bloomberg, while seeming decent, and honest, is unfortunately part of the billionaire crew that think themselves worthy to rule.

From Oprah, to Bloomberg, to DeBlasio, the rich are coming for their seat at the table of power. And they are NOT accustomed to DEMOCRATIC LIMITS.

We have throngs of folks, that are used to suckups, sycophants and attenders of their every whim. We cannot be ruled by gods and goddesses.

We are traveling down a path to ruin. Our TVs are replete with bread and circuses, and the REAL news is called fake.

For these, and similar reasons, we must imprison the folks that flouted our norms and traditions. TO SAVE THEM.

Without contrition surrounding the assault and destruction of our VOLUNTARY system, there is NO solidity in any of our protections.

Our democratic protections are too weak.

Trump should be used as a system tester. Like the hacker that finds the flaw in your system. Sure he wants to destroy us, but his effect can be used.

And imprisoning him can be used, as a signpost, for all others that want to destroy us to behold.

OUR Constitution is weak. When the wicked say no, and by the way, off with all your heads, there is no remedy. The TEETH in our system are only gums.

So, in review, we need to use the Trump experiment, to shore up our protections, and put teeth in their ENFORCEMENT. And, we need to use Trump, and all other usurpers, as examples. In earlier times, public stocks fulfilled this role. But we are more advanced now.

We used to throw vegetables at those in the public stocks, but we are modern. In our day and age, we need to have multiple cameras, so we can use the Trump prison reality show to ward off the KArdashians, the Oprahs, and all the rich that are not public, but just as threatening to our way of life.

OUR Constitution is weak. That cannot stand.

 

Hahhaa you all falsely accused the president and his campaign, have been calling them traitors for years, ignored the rule of law and due process and. Now won’t accept the results of a lengthy investigation! Too funny

 

You mean the Mueller report? The one that TOTALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY exonerated the king? But he will not release? Even though it is a TOTAL exoneration?

 

It’s been released. I don’t know anything about a king

 

Translation: "We're losing the game, and so, like the bratty children we are, we must pick up the game, and fling it across the room."

 

Not a lot we can do about weaknesses in our founding document absent the political will to amend it and that aint happening so I am not sure what all this means. So I will state my view. I believe in prosecutorial discretion. Where there is evidence of criminal conduct, it should be investigated with the goal of building a case for judicial review. If the evidence is wanting, or if there is little on no chance of getting a conviction, or if, as a practical matter, the legal, social or fiscal costs of pursuing it outweigh the benefits, or the spirit of justice is offended by its pursuit and punishment, then a judgement call exists not to prosecute. Not every act of illegal conduct is equal and sometimes the prosecution of the trivial, can either compromise the integrity of the office, or deplete it of the moral, social, or fiscal capital to aggressively pursue what really needs prosecuting . Petty vindictiveness is not supposed to merit a DA offices time or resources.

I am not even sure this is a response to the above, but I hope so.

 

You right wingers keep spinning and spinning, and moving your men across the board. And all of us say, OUR ROLL, as you charge us for your houses and hotels.

 

Cry about it more.

 

What you are saying is, you believe our protections are robust enough. I disagree. OPEN FLOUTING of our norms, read protections, has but one remedy. IMPEACHMENT. And that is almost wholly subject to POPULAR conception, read POLITICAL.

 

You know what you should try? Every time you yell IMPEACHMENT, you should put a nickle in a sock. At the end of the week, when the sock is full, beat it over your head to knock some sense into yourself.

 

"Release" Barnes & Noble, Simon & Schuster and Amazon will sell you a leather bound or paperback edition. If you're broke you can download a free PDF, or print yourself all 448 pages. Does your country censor or prohibit political documents?

 

No. Actually I thought we were talking about pursuing criminal prosecution of Trump or his minions for assorted crimes either before or after he left. On impeachment, I am in agreement with Pelosi, but recognize that the legal case seeking judicial enforcement of the House subpoenas, may improve if those committees start using the word in as definitive and bone fide legislative purpose beyond improving the laws and oversight under which some laws were broken. We need to have the subpoena powers of the House and Senate enforced here. Insofar as the House acts as a prosecutor in its role in impeachment process, my basic guidelines above still stand.

The notion of 'due process' is a bit awkward in an impeachment trial. Nobody is going to be incarcerated as a result of what the Congress decides.

 

It's under the black stripes. The Holy Unpeachment Grail is hidden under those few black stripes.

 

I am in agreement with Pelosi, given the political climate. What is necessary, is to address the NECESSITY of a correct political climate for our protections to function. They should function regardless, and be UNSTOPPABLE< as DUTY, not choice.

 

Such as TEETH in reccusals, etc.

 

It's the capitalizations that really sell it.

 

You are just LUCKY I don't have voice inflection.

 

We need the background work, and what it revealed. That does not have to be released to ME personally, but Congress needs the whole enchilada.

 

What do you mean by "background work"?

 

So why have they taken no steps to do it? File a motion ask a judge to release the grand jury proceeding...Rule 6(E) is clear

 

If I tell you what you "need" ... I'll get infracted ... again. Congress, the (D) majority, hasn't reviewed what AG Barr provided. What congress "needs" is a distraction from it's inability to legislate, and something to campaign on.

 

Alt-Tab error? Or just like posting to yourself LOLOL

 

Where's the collusion?