I suspect this is where Trump/Russia collusion will be found in the end

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are spinning for and defending a crook that would steal your money at his bogus university if given the slightest opportunity. What person with any sense would defend that? Are you daft?

    His history is one of pure unadulterated corruption.
    From the link...



    Explain again how this had zero to do with Trump and btw.. you totally ignored the other very detailed linked article I provided you with.
     
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  2. TOG 6

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    106 investigations by the IRS
    No proof of money laundering.
    No one charged for money laundering.
    How do you think you have a point here?
     
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  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You don't. You either sell it or show your tax returns.
     
  4. upside222

    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your hatred just comes shining through!

    Actually it's not. You are just jealous and envious of a successful man.


    Read what you posted CAREFULLY. Trump was the owner, not the manager. Just like I said.

    I just did. It's right there in your quote. The other links are no different. The owner pays when an employee does something wrong.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Neither did I. I simply used the same words you did. But, since you now mention it: the extent of Trump's holdings and businesses, and profits... are also everybody's business. The Constitution says so.
     
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  6. upside222

    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, MALARKY.

    Or you have someone run it for you! Just like Trump is doing!

    How many people *are* you willing to put out of work that are employed in Trump's companies?
     
  7. Bluebird

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    OMG,the extent you are going to to defend this cad is remarkable---trying to set up a strawman is not a defense---
     
  8. mitchscove

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    Haven't you clowns gotten the memo? Trump was never the target of an investigation. Schumer only lied so he had an excuse for obstruction that paints him and his party as enemies of the country.

    We now know who was colluding with the Russians. It was Comey. He was not only colluding with the Russians, but was hoodwinked into announcing that the investigation of Hillary Clinton was over with no indictment despite her guilt. Clinton's exoneration was the product of collusion ,,, the only collusion with the Russians.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.f9b615912b50
     
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  9. upside222

    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait a minute! You are unwilling to face up to the reality of what you want!

    If Trump's businesses and real estate are problems *NOW* then they need to be shut down *NOW* putting all the employees out of work.

    If they aren't enough of a problem to shut down *NOW* then why do they need to be shut down at all?

    We've never had a President who employs thousands of people before. And you are unwilling to face up to that reality.

    So tell us! Are you willing to put thousands of people out of work just to satisfy your hatred of Trump?
     
  10. upside222

    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are his PROFITS everyone's business?

    Are *YOUR* profits everyone's business?

    And where does the Constitution say that the profits of *any* privately owned business are everyone's business?
     
  11. Bluebird

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    Are you not reading or not wanting to understand----Here, I will explain it again-----
    You need ' cash' to get 'chips'----the only way to get chips is to go to a casino--in this case trump's casino---person brings said cash, gets chips,doesn't cash in chips, either destroys chips so they can't get redeemed or give them to trump-either way--"trumps' casino 'still' has the cash from unclaimed chips -the cash never gets put on the books to be accounted for-it is as if the whole transaction never happened. WA-LA-money laundering complete--now,I don't know how trump arranged to then get the supposedly clean cash back to the person minus his take mind you---ask trump that question at your next butt kissing rally!
    Why would a person wanting to launder money go back into a casino & claim what you state?
    You said' if the money never gets on the books then how did the casino account for the chips'------- Think carefully now-----you know the answer to this--
     
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    All rich people get huge tax breaks because they have a LOT of exemptions to claim and especially if they run a business. If you think that Hill-hag and the rest of the DNC doesn't take advantage too, then you have your head up your butt! Personal taxes mean nothing when it comes to governing the country.
     
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    When you buy chips, the money in and chips out are recorded. Thus, the cash is on the ledger and open to scrutiny by the IRS.
    You have nothing here -- just like the 106 IRS investigations that did not find any laundered money or lead to anyone being charged for laundering money.
     
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    I told you: THIS IS *EXACTLY* WHAT THE FEDERAL TASK FORCE ON MONEY LAUNDERING LOOKS FOR.

    If you don't know how cash gets back to the Russians then your entire scenario falls apart.

    Do you realize that not even the Russians walk into a casino with millions in CASH and try to buy chips? That, again, is the exact kind of thing the Feds are looking for!

    You've watched too many Ocean movies!
     
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    Why would selling it put anybody out of work? All this is fine. But the American people need to know that the Emoluments Clause is being followed. So he has two choices. He can sell it all and not show tax returns, or keep it and show tax returns. His choice. I'm fine either way.
     
  16. bwk

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    Trump is definitely a target to this investigation; http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/report-links-gop-operative-to-flynn-russian-hackers-979998787668
     
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    If the business is a problem then doesn't it need to be shut down immediately so Trump can't benefit from it?

    If it doesn't need to be shut down immediately then just how much of a problem is there?

    If the business *is* a problem then it needs to be shut down immediately and all of the workers laid off. It can then be sold and the new owners can decide what they want to do for employees.

    Are you willing to lay off the thousands of employees Trump employees in order to satisfy your hatred of him?
     
  19. Golem

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    Because the Constitution makes it so.

    I'm not the President. ....

    Emoluments Clause. And, of course, Congress' duty to oversee the President
     
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    Where does it say that in the Constitution? Provide a quote.

    I'm still waiting for a quote from the Constitution that says the President has to release his tax returns.

    Why do you need his tax returns to determine if he has received emoluments? What if he gets a piece of artwork? Will that show on his tax return?
     
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    Bottom line is that big money deals come with non-disclosure agreements. Releasing blacked out sheets of paper wouldn't make alot of sense.
     
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    Ey-YI-YI-----More all big caps & more insults---Now your not making any sense at all-----
    Like I said I am not a crook,that is why I said go ask trump at the next kiss butt rally----he knows how the money got back to the Russians-
    So, you know for a fact that nobody walked in with a briefcase full of cash-you were there? If, so, you work for trump & are complicit to the crime----or you are making sh## up as you go along!
    What are you talking about 'trying" to buy chips---gees,get a grip----perhaps time for you to give it a break----just saying---
     
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    Not that interesting. Obama got rid of Flynn in 2014. Flynn was still allowed to have security clearance up until 2016. That's not Obama's rule.
     
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    If you don't know what a crime is then why are you accusing Trump of having committed one?

    How large of a briefcase do you think you would have to have to contain $1M?

    You realize the Feds don't print a $1M bill, right?
     

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