I think we're missing the point

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Warning our enemy of any military moves is treasonous... it is that simple.... Milley was not in the chain of command, nor was Pelosi... but I've got your fake links "trumped"
    Now you can't argue with this guy.... well at least we didn't dare before...

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    Leftists in the Executive Branch Bureaucracy think they know better than the "people" who elected their boss. Almost all of them were treasonous when Donald Trump was President. And deserve the due penalties for treason.
     
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    So, we agree. :roll:

    I've been saying that since my first post about Milley's calls.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    You missed one of the the main points.... You can't prove Milley had that conversation. and no one else has either.... it is all hearsay from 2 fake news reporters.
     
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    Many people do NOT like taking personal responsibility. They go through life wanting somebody else to make the decision because that's easier than educating and advocating for themselves. The human brain isn't designed to deal with unrelenting stress and day-to-day stressors, which are normal, causes a lot of angst for most people. Those of us with PTSD aren't able to turn off the signal so we have no choice but to face the monsters.

    For example, I have a neighbor in his late 50s. After his divorce, he lived with his older brother for a number of years and got his own apartment in 2018. It's the first time he's ever lived alone. Every time the last of the month comes around he has a full-fledged meltdown and stresses out about have to pay his bills on the 1st of the next month. He screams, yells, rants and is just hysterical over something billions of us do every month. He is exactly the kind of person that *needs* the media to tell him what to think and they are more than willing to oblige.

    With that said, it's beyond clear that Trump's agenda is to bring our country to its knees. He has never had our best interests at heart. He's a monster. The only *unknown* part of this equation is why his supporters can't see that. The whole thing is sick and toxic and like the Capitol rioters that he turned his back on, I'm very concerned they won't see it until it's far too late.

    Say what you want about Biden, but Biden cares about our country and our people. He said that he would govern for ALL of us and he has upheld that. He may not be an eloquent speaker or most debonair man. He has his faults like all human beings. However, when he messes up, he takes responsibility for it. He doesn't point fingers or make up outrageous lies. He does what he says he will do and he's honest. No, he's not perfect and has never claimed to be, but, at the end of the day, nobody can *honestly* say that he does not make decisions solely for HIS benefit. He has many mountains to climb and it won't be easy but he's willing and I admire that because that's way more than Trump ever tried to do for us.

    I'm deeply ashamed of my fellow countrymen that have chosen a person over our country and our Constitution. I haven't even had the courage to talk to my children about it because it pains me deeply and I will move heaven and earth to spare them this awful truth. I am hoping that I can figure out what to tell them, but, until then, I'll carry this heartache alone. When they came into this world, I promised that I would protect them with every ounce of my being. I will die for them. I will kill to protect them. I know I will have to say something. I don't even know where to begin with this. I never, ever would have believed something like this could happen in our country. Outside my babies, I'd give anything for this to not be our reality.
     
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    All if which is garbage.
     
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    That’s some personal ButTrump rant there. Of course, no factual basis, it’s all emotive fallacies, which means your long screed here ultimately amounts to nothing.
     
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    Did you ever come up with clip or even a transcript of Milley's phone conversation?
     
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    No, did you?
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can't prove something that never happened.
     
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    Sounds right; wtf are you talking about?
     
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    I read it. It wasn’t worth while at all. It was a rant with no facts. Kept repeating violent and other key words people like you will latch onto but pointed to no examples. Her explanation of his supporters were way wrong. Her explanation of what will heal the country is the exact beliefs that got Trump elected to begin with. That whole article was garbage, and not long at all. Don’t know why you would have considered it long.
     
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    Telling China not to worry about a war isnt a big deal. Telling them he'll call them if there is a war is lol!, but not a big deal either (it would be a big deal if he actually followed through).

    But telling his subordinates (which is effectively the entire military) to not follow the Commander in Chiefs orders without his OK is by definition a military coup.

    Military coups are sometimes warranted, but they are like vigilante justice- not to be engaged in unless one is willing to suffer the consequences lawfully prescribed for it. If Milley is not charged, tried and (if convicted) punished, this will happen again with far more disastrous consequences.

    If Milley really did what he thought was right, then he did it accepting the punishment for his crime. If not, then he's just another authoritarian, power hungry thug that needs to be gotten rid of anyway.
     
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    Well the author is a well credentialed and acclaimed psychologist and author. So that's what backs up the opinions she gave. So IF you're reading to discredit her one excuse is as good as another. Personally I found it spot on in many ways and a helpful analysis of why people cling to their belief in tRump when he's such an obvious phoney and con-man.

    No it isn't that long, but anything longer than a paragraph tends to roll the eyes of your brethren back in their heads.
     
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    I'm deeply concerned that so many people have chosen a party of disingenuous power mad political hacks with a D after their names over the country.
     
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    I would have been willing to give Milley's perspective some sympathetic consideration, except that he specifically cited the January 6 "insurrection" as a major motivating factor in his decision. That alone suggests that his decision may not have been based entirely on rational factors and that his perspective was deranged.
     
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    Yeah, that's what keeps me up at night too. Smh.
     
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    Trump is a terrible human being. If the allegations against Milley are true, he committed treason and espionage and we do usually impose the death penalty for such a transgression. What's the issue here?
     
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    IRONIC given that we have MULTIPLE instances of the Domestic Terrorist SUPPORTERS of YOUR biggest *LOSER* violating the Law of the Land on HIS behalf!

    :roflol:
     
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    Thing is if you charge Miller with that you are overturning the precedent Schlesinger set during Nixon’s end days
     
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    Oh my, those wild selfies are so dangerous! Of course lefties always ignore the riots that destroyed parts of cities by the left.
     
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    What is unequivocally clear and prima facie is that Milley was in violation of the Constitution, and, just as serious, in violation of one of the cardinal sins of the Military Code of Conduct. He should be at least dishonorably discharged if not court martialed.
     
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    Milly actually never gave the Chinese any more than a heads up and that even though his CIC was behaving eradically guard rails were up.
     
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    See my previous reply.
     
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    Actually, and I know ive posted links in response to you making this claim before, the riots were started by anarchists from across the political spectrum, including tRump supporters.
     
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