I would be more likely to donate money to Political Forum if:

My ignore list is for trolls; those who come here with no intention of adding or learning anything. I don't filter people who disagree with me. I filter people who have no purpose other than to spew the already-known partisan propaganda of their party and do not engage in rational discourse.

I am here, primarily, to expand my horizons. And discussing and attempting to understand opposing views is required to that end. You have to admit, there IS a lot of non-valuable BS here, and filtering that out to get to the real meat is what I use my troll list for. I too despise IMPOSED censorship, however, in the face of so much forum traffic, one must self-censor his inputs to weed out the wasteful bandwidth. There are certain posters from whom I have never gained anything useful, or insightful, or entertaining. I know them by name, and they are in my international, non-partisan, racially diverse troll list.

 

Whatever I could learn from the people on my i-list isn't worth knowing.

That way lies madness.

My i-list probably has like 150 names in it by now, and I next to never agree with whomever I engage here.

 

...if politacalforum.com would stop endorsing racism.

 

I've had my differences of opinion with how this Forum is run, but strange ideas that it endorses racism is sure as hell NOT one of them. Could you explain what you're talking about? Maybe, give a couple of examples?

 

I've been here for years and all I can say is PF is awesome. The whole "liberal" mod "conservitive" mod crap is BS. I know it sounds crazy but even liberal mods can be fair. I would give money to PF but I just don't got none to give. I've always been treated well here and people under-estimate how hard it is to keep a forum like this going. So if you blog here and got money to spare, share it here before this goes away and open debate is squashed by PC Gazi's (global socialist)

 

Forget what I wrote above. I've decided to join the 'do what I want or I won't donate' mob. Today I got an Infraction Warning. So I'd like a refund on my last donation. Not the whole amount. Maybe $1.98 or so. USD please.

 

Most people who post here don't really demand to have the forum managers do whatever they want, doug. They probably just want to have their say and make their posts without all the nanny state kind of "mother may I" kind of hovering over them.

 

I'm not going to say all censorship, but there should be a board where profanity is allowed.

 

If you use the forum, then donate.

 

Where is the option "If I had more money"?

 

you are allowed to voice racists opinions of any degree, but if you call someone out on it and call an apple an apple and thus him a racist, your post will get deleted...if u allow racists to do what they want and at the same time sanction people who call racism out - well then you effectively endorse racism.

also, most mods seem to be racist, of course that reflects in how the forum is run, too.

 

I cannot disagree completely with what you've said, for your observations help point out the arbitrary censorship that I've been complaining about. But you are definitely incorrect when you say that, "you are allowed to voice racists opinions of any degree". Have you not been "spanked" with "Rule #7" yet?

"7. RACIAL, ETHNIC, HOMOPHOBIC, GENDER, OR RELIGIOUS SLURS
Any post or image that is - in the judgment of a moderator or administrator - a slur against any such group will be subject to infraction."

Sounds pretty unambiguous to me -- and, more to the point, the whole determination is up to the caprices and whims of "the judgment of a moderator".

And then there's the word-filter... example: let's say I'm a racist who hates Black people, so, I write a post with a word in it that rhymes with "bigger". The offending word is intercepted by the word-filter, and the censorship takes places immediately.

So, is there dubious, uneven, and arbitrary censorship of many different kinds in this Forum? Obviously. And the censorship certainly extends to all aspects of "racism". Nevertheless, censorship, per se, should be done away with completely! I've posted here for eight years, and I will make my first donation when it is announced that "moderators", and the Forum's word-filter have been eliminated....

 

rules don't matter if not enforced; i, and I'm sure you too, have read, and am reading every day, about the thug culture, the tendency to criminality by blacks, their lesser and primitive culture, "monkey" comparisons, their lesser intelligence and a lot more other generalizations that wud certainly be considered a "slur" on blacks; I've never seen take something like this has been taken down, tho I'm sure it has happened especially with more extreme "slurs"...we can have a discussion if u shud be plowed to voice opinions like that, I'm not that sure; the thing that bothers me tho is that i get sanctioned when i call these people out as racists...if a forum is run like that, it essentially endorses racism, no matter what the rules are.

e: i guess you are right tho, not to any degree

 

I would be glad to donate as I did the first two months after I joined. However, my computer seems to have been hacked. I got a strange pop-up saying my computer had been compromised and that I was to call a certain number. I called and they wanted money to fix it, and told me my McAfee was outdated--which it isn't. I am afraid to give out my personal info now, but I will try to remember to get a pre-paid visa card. I just forget.

 

I think the forum works fairly well. You have to censor sometimes, as people like myself tend to, occasionally, get 'carried away'. It appears there are an equal number of liberal and conservative moderators, but if your going to add or subtract--more conservatives please.

 

I am still somewhat new, so I am holding off on my donation until I have been around long enough to fully understand the community. What I do know though, is that moderators on almost every forum are there to protect liberals, and when a mod takes action against a post, it is most likely a liberal action. With this in mind, liberal members should not be able to notice when they are in a heavily moderated environment, and they most likely won't care about the topic. Conservatives are the ones who feel the suppression and censorship, because what they have to say can often only be countered by censoring it. Moderators step in when somebody needs protection, and liberals are the ones who present themselves as victims. Conservatives pay the price for their freedom mostly from wealth redistribution, but they also pay for it by having their freedom of speech suppressed, the value of their marriages reduced, etc.

As a conservative, I have already felt the liberal heavy hand a few times here, but have not ruled out making a donation. I am against paying to be policed by PC moderators, but have become accustomed to this kind of stuff. It is just a point that society has come down to, so it is never a surprise when it happens anymore. I rarely read what moderators say when they slap my wrist, since it will inevitably equate to the standard "liberal with a badge" thing, and life goes on. What is important here, is that moderators are indeed essential to maintaining a functional forum. All humans have an uncivilized animal within, and they will inevitably push the limits. Just like cops, moderators are needed to maintain order. Cops need a certain level of discretion and authority to do their jobs, and that level needs to be higher than what it takes to keep ALL cops on the good side of the law, a level that unfortunately will let a few bad cops slip through. Since lives are not at stake on a forum, the level of authority and discretion can be set way higher than what we give cops, so we will see more corruption here. Oh well, we still need moderators. I will still donate, even if I am never allowed to hold a liberal's feet to the fire, but there could be a business problem if I can't play after my donation is made. That is the risk that I am still evaluating. I pay over at Bill Orielly's site, but am on the fence about my renewal over there. He has heavy handed liberal mods as well. I will pay to play on any site, but I do have to feel that I am getting my moneys worth. Time will tell.

 

Never call those offshore, scammer computer "fix-it" clip joints, never let them get inside your computer, and never, ever give them money.

Go to an excellent website called bleepingcomputer.com . Go to the Downloads tab near the top, there are about 11 pages of downloads in there. Download Rkill, Roguekiller, Junkware Removal Tool, AdwCleaner, Malwarebytes, and SUPERAntiSpyware. Run these cleaners in that order. Also, if your browser is Chrome, go to Settings, Extensions, and throw anything that looks like junkware/crapware in the trash can. Consider using the Firefox browser instead.

If you're running Windows 7, I'd recommend that you don't use McAfee or any third-party antivirus scanner with the exception of ESET NOD32, which is probably the best consumer-grade antivirus scanner in the world today. I'd use Microsoft Security Essentials instead. It's free, it's fast, and it's written by the people who wrote your operating system. If you're running Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, your built-in antivirus scanner is Windows Defender, which is just another name for Microsoft Security Essentials. If you have McAfee on a Win 8.1 or Win 10 system and you delete McAfee, make very certain that Windows Defender is fully re-activated before you do anything else.

Good luck.

 

seems like u haven't got to known the forum that well just yet...here it is exactly the other way around - virtually no mod is a liberal; racists, homophobes, opponents of logic and humanity get a free pass on a daily basis, regarding what u told us about u, i think u will feel right at home

 

Its pretty clear that what people in this forum want is less censorship and less interference by moderators. If I owned this forum and needed money as bad as the owners say they do I think I would pay attention to these opinions.

 

The thing I like most about Politics Forum is that there's no profanity. I'll be a donor ASAP.

 

I think there's enough latitude to be able to debate but enough controls to keep it civil. The balance is very hard to find and members at the extreme are not going to be happy regardless of how the show is run.

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Forums without moderators are absolutely worthless.

 

The Forum would get rid of all censorship.

That ^^.

 

Also Jack would like the Moderators to get rid of the Muslims who are ruining Europe and that the women Moderators would get back in the kitchen. Then he'll give his $5.00 donation.