If Biden wins... can we come together on this Forum?

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    So who gets to pay for the "free" healthcare democrats promised millions of illegals?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    You think limiting itemized deductions exploited by high earners and doubling the standard deduction benefiting low earners helps millionaires? I recommend H&R block, because you are way too misguided to be doing your own taxes.

    It's to punish people for not complying with fascist dictates. Beats a firing squad, but I would rather be left alone and pay taxes that support all kinds of entitlements including welfare and medicaid as long as those programs attempt to correct the problems that cause poverty in the first place ,,, the structure of the programs themselves.
    Appointing judges that uphold the Constitution is certainly an accomplishment. We were about to look like Venezuela before Trump. Democrats were smuggling slaves across the southern border to do their housekeeping, cooking, and landscaping. They were about to take us back to their glory days of the Democrat Plantation.
    Criminal Reform ,,, released non-violent offenders locked up through the Biden's & Clinton's 1994 Crime Law and taken to the extreme by mass incarcerater Kamala Harris.
    Tax Reform doubled the standard deduction for low earners and limited itemized deductions for high earners.
    Insourcing medical device manufacture from China.
    Pharmaceutical pricing reform, ending US subsidies for foreign sale of drugs that drive medical costs and health insurance pricing.
    Before COVID, the economy was humming. The sale of the US to China since 2000 resulted in COVID coming here in spades. Trump called out the threat China posed long before the 2016 election. Who sold us out?
     
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  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I say again: coming together does not mean that we cease to be a country of laws. Trump is a proven criminal and, as such, needs to pay for his crimes.

    But this isn't about a cult of personality. Agree with him politically or not, it's not about him. It's about our country. And our country goes way beyond Trump, Biden or... any politician whatsoever.
     
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  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's not up to Democrats to "do" something to unite us when they are not in power. It'sTrump and Republicans who have been in power.

    It's the President's job to "do" things to unite us. Trump did exactly the opposite. He divided us and declared himself the President only of his supporters.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That would be great. A real alternative.
     
  6. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did he "declare himself" the President only of his supporters? I have heard democrats say he is not their president.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Certainly not. Someday you misinformed GOP base will snap out of it....
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Bologna. Trump is getting killed in trade wars by China, he is just full of Bologna.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Endlessly. That's a fact he is a disgrace so is your GOP propaganda machine of endless phony scandals and no retractions...
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then if true, then Golen should not complain about Trump being only the president of his followers?
     
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    I think that is the ONLY real alternative for those on the other side of the aisle. They either create a new political party, or let the conservative party fracture into dozens of smaller enclaves with no vast majority.
     
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    This is a lie. This is my point. They have other options, including crafting legislation that includes enough for Republicans to support it. That's up to the dems to negotiate in good faith and earn the votes of 8 or 9 Republican senators.
     
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    This. Golem mixed up / forgot who declared President Trump not their president. It was NOT President Trump
     
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    Americans are human.
    Any review of the history of human government will tell you all you need to know about "bad karma".

    "R. J.. Rummel, a professor emeritus of political science .... has painstakingly compiled statistics accounting for the number of people killed worldwide by "democide," a term he coined to describe governments' intentional killing ... of civilians....

    ...Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997) - provide the most comprehensive estimates currently available, and the ones most often referenced by scholars.

    Rummel estimates that from 1900 to 1987 governments murdered almost 170 million people - a figure that far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths thought to have resulted from all the international and civil wars fought during the same period....

    Democide often occurs under authoritarian regimes... Indeed democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...."
    THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/2003.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Almost all professional politicians are crooks.

    PHILLY VOICE, South Philly judge of elections pleads guilty to stuffing ballot boxes, accepting bribes, Prosecutors say Domenick DeMuro, 73, inflated results for Democratic primary candidates, By Michael Tanenbaum Headshot BY MICHAEL TANENBAUM , PhillyVoice Staff, MAY 21, 2020.
    https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-f...lty-domenick-demuro-democrat-voting-machines/

    Or straight to the point:

    "You know there's no crooked politicians. There's never a lie because there is never any truth." Lenny Bruce
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    What has the DP/RINO establishment gained over the last 4 years?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Translation "hey guys if I get MY way, we can be cool!"
    Can't make this stuff up! Very entertaining post, thank you sir!
     
  18. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm glad you won't accept all those fake myths that right wingnut media feeds into their audience.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Rrrrighhtt

    Aren't conservatives adorable? It's especially cute how they think foreign affairs are this big Risk Game. but it's still 1950 too. COMMUNISM still rules in the Soviet Union and Mao in China. Karl Marx is, of course, still alive, (202 years old and beard's still not all gray, dayum)

    Look, wake up and try to understand. This is the 21st century, not the middle of the 20th. There is no China and there is no America as you think of them either now or in the past, and what Pat Buchanan and Lou Dobbs have told you is a fond memory never existed anyway. You're likely to make your own and your children's lives very unhappy if you keep living in this fantasy delusional world much longer.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    When the ACA passed, my wife was self-employed & uninsured. We also tried getting her on it, but couldn't do it. So I understand your feelings. But there's more of value here than just me or my wife. The ACA was imperfect. It had a lot of short comings & limitations. It was not a solution to the national problem. But it did allow around 20 million additional Americans access to medical care who didn't have it before. As an American who cares about human rights & who cares about my country having compassion, I support the ACA until something better can be devised. Unlike Trump, I don't believe everything has to benefit me personally, or it's disposable. I care about other Americans too.
     
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    Myths are free. The only time when a myth costs money is when the right wing uses taxpayer money to stop Democrats from importing Fire-breathing dragons to burn the corn fields.
     
  22. jcarlilesiu

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    Lol. And you just keep going. Proving your own OP as the farce it is.

    Then you shouldn't have spent 4 years daily ranting about Trump. By your own admission, you along with the rest of the democrats put party in front of country.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Well it sure did nothing for me, I had a kidney stone and paid out of pocket for an ultrasound and urologist, still have over a 1K bill for the MRI or whatever that big scanner was they put me in in the ER. I'm paying 20$ a month on that.
     
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    Exactly.

    4 Years of Trump's Divisive HATRED assured that,
     
  25. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your a radicalized lefty with platitude talking points who desired to establish the acceptable form of conservatism in which to debate your perspectives?

    Oh, you'll fit right in here with the rest of the far left progressives.
     
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