If Marijuana was legal but alcohol wasn't?

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  1. timslash

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    World where alcohol is illegal and marijuana is legal:
    1) People die from legal marijuana and create other types of drugs(like people created beer, whiskey, bourbon, etc)
    2) Alcohol is illegal, but some people still trying to find it.
    3) Both things are for addicted idiots and they will die anyway.
    The picture will not change... Problem is in American minds.
     
  2. perdidochas

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    It wasn't on purpose. On about two occasions he grabbed a drink that was within his reach. Mainly daiquiri type drinks. He doesn't drink now.
     
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    Accidental, not on purpose.
     
  4. Wolverine

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    Drinking does damage your liver, marijuana can be consumed in edibles, and who cares about lung cancer? It is the users risk.
     
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    The compound they traditionally test for marijuana stays in the bloodstream for many, many days after its ingestion, LONG after the intoxication wears off. Do they have an actual "intoxication" test for marijuana, now?
     
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    Drinking does not damage your liver. Drinking in excess damages your liver. Consuming just about anything in sufficient quantities will damage your liver. My suggestion is don't consume to that extent, but then I guess that's the users risk.

    Seems kind of silly to ask who cares about lung cancer or second hand smoke while asserting concern over liver damage.



     
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    Senior citizens prescription drugs would probably be cut by 2/3rds.
     
  8. JoeSixpack

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    Cannabis has been around longer than the processes to make alcohol. Cannabis is natural, so it goes back to Adam, and it has only become illegal in one form or another in the last 100 years. What exactly are you talking about? You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about.
     
  9. One Mind

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    The argument would be a human being if he owns nothing else, owns his own body, not you, not the state. So he can put what he wants in it, for it belongs to him exclusively. The other argument is that we cannot afford to own another man's body, for it is too costly to taxpayers to do so, and it turns us into a gestapo state.
     
  10. JoeSixpack

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    You don't have to smoke it.

    There are cancer causing chemicals in the smoke, but you will not get cancer from it because the amount of smoke inhaled in a cannabis smoker's lifetime is nowhere near enough to cause cancer. Nobody has ever developed cancer from cannabis use.

    The only argument is in small quantities and when used responsibly, alcohol is just as safe as cannabis. Unfortunately alcohol can still kill you if it is abused, not so with cannabis.
     
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    Lung cancer is a user risk. If people do not want to be around secondhand smoke, they can walk out of the room.
     
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    ¿Cómo?
     
  13. JoeSixpack

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    What, what?
     
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    not like smokers die of lung cancer
     
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    Lung cancer results from embedding small, damaging particles in the lungs. The particles most often causing cancer are produced from incomplete combustion of complex hydrocarbons. Tobacco, marijuana, pine, oak... are all sources of those complex hydrocarbons. Smoking marijuana isn't any safer than smoking tobacco.

    If you put your mouth on a cigarette and inhale your chance of cancer soars, regardless of whether it's tobacco or marijuana. To say that no one has every developed cancer from smoking marijuana is not reasonable. As we continue to legalize marijuana (and I'm sure we will), more people will smoke it. I'd speculate you'll eventually see use of (and death from) smoking marijuana outpace smoking tobacco.

    And anything can kill you if abused. Air too rich in oxygen or drinking too much water can poison you.



     
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    *shrug* The same can be said about dog sh*t.




     
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    Yes if you could consume the same amount of carcinogens that has been proven to cause cancer from tobacco smoke in cannabis smoke you could develop cancer. But like I said, you couldn't smoke enough cannabis in a lifetime to get the same or equal cancer causing chemicals in your lungs as a tobacco smoker can/does, and nobody has ever developed cancer from cannabis use. You can distort the facts all you want but that one fact still remains. Cannabis doesn't cause cancer the way tobacco does, even if you smoke it, which you do not have to do to get a buzz.

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    People are smoking dog (*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
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    Lung cancer results from embedding small, damaging particles in the lungs. The particles most often causing cancer are produced from incomplete combustion of complex hydrocarbons. Tobacco, marijuana, pine, oak... all are complex hydrocarbons. Smoking marijuana isn't any safer than smoking tobacco.

    If you burn a pound of marijuana and inhale the smoke, you've put your lungs at the same risk as if you burnt a pound of tobacco or oak and inhaled that smoke.




     
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    Dog (*)(*)(*)(*)ting in the room isn't illegal, now is it?

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    I will agree with this. Inhaling any sort of smoke is not good for one's health. I often point out to my pothead friends that weed may be natural, but they are still inhaling smoke, and they shouldn't pretend it is totally harmless.
     
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    Guess it depends on the room. My point is if you do either next to someone, they'd likely complain. And suggesting they leave the room if they don't like the pollution is not likely to be a satisfactory response to either complaint.




     
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    Actually, it is. If I am bothered by secondhand smoke, I do not sit there inhaling secondhand smoke.

    Amazing how simple somethings are eh? My solution does not involve the using the Violence of the Almighty State to get my way.
     
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    It's a simple solution. You change your life to adapt to the pollution of others. I respect your choice. I don't feel obliged to make the same one. I feel it's reasonable for me to look at the guy who is dropping dog poop or cigarette smoke on me and ask him to stop.

    And if other folks have a similar problem with having crap dumped on them, I wouldn't object to the majority of us coming up with a rule that says members of our club (the US of A) are prohibited from dumping crap on each other.




     
  23. Daggdag

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    Yes it does. It just causes forms of cancer that smoking does not. It also kills far more brain cells, poisons the liver, and does far more damage to the heart.
     
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    Your body produces ethanol. Any inhalation of smoke embeds incompletely combusted hydrocarbons into the walls of your lungs. One puff of a cigarette does slight but irreversible and cumulative damage to your body that is increasingly likely to lead to cancer. One sip of a beer does not.

    Take one puff and one sip each day for a lifetime. The beer won't be the one that kills you.




     
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    Your body also produces small amounts of arsenic. I supposed you think it's safe to drink arsenic too.
     

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