If our Constitution made liberalism, in effect, illegal what should we do with them?

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't pay much attention to that one. He does not know the meaning of the words he uses and thinks Luther - who "argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[2] afforded no legal protection,[3] and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[4] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".[5]"

    Was a pillar of individual liberty.
     
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    please cut 95%
    of your words. Thanks
     
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    james M Banned

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    OMG!! What a 100% irrelevant topic !!. Due process is not threatened even 1%. Trump cant even stop the deep state coup under way to depose him( biggest scandal in America history) from within is own FBI/DOJ. He cant even fire his own AG. 1+1=2
     
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    all agree. So???????
     
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    You can't be serious. The Constitution is a ****ing (revolutionary) liberal document establishing the 1st codified liberal democracy in the world. This is like asking what if the Soviet Constitution made socialism illegal.
     
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    so?? Taxes are legal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not all of us are incapable of reading more than a sentence or two. This lack of ability is perhaps why you know so little.
     
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    james M Banned

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    you mean liberal using the 18th century definition. Today liberal means liberal socialist progressive communist ie statist whereas our founders were for tiny tiny central govt. Are you clear now? When we talk today we use today's definition. Modern liberals hate our founders as old European white male slave holders. This is why they spied for Stalin, voted for Sanders and want our Constitution to be a living communist Constitution. Go it now?
     
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    Trump has proposed doing away with due process for gun owners and asylum seekers. You claim to be concerned about those who reject our Constitutional values, but you want to give Trump a free pass.
     
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    if conservatism knows so little why is the liberal always afraid to show why he feels that way. Do you even know you need a reason?
     
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    If you don't care about the free speech of those you disagree with, you don't care about free speech.
    If you don't care about the freedom of religion of those you disagree with, you don't care about freedom of religion.
    If you don't care about the due process of those you disagree with, you don't care about due process.
    Trump dislikes due process.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    No one said anything remotely like that. Taxes are legal, but what does the Constitution say about instituting new taxes? Hint: it has to do with the separation or powers. Who has the Constitutional authority to create new taxes?
     
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    So?? he proposed a wall and many many things. A proposal from a big mouth buffoon and a policy are vastly different. Subject is ultra trivial in scheme of things. Ever hear about peace with North Korea and no nukes aimed at us. See how the Marxist have distracted you?
     
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    ever read newspapers or watch TV. Trump hatred 24/7. We have plenty of unlimited free speech. See how Marxists have distracted you?
     
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    actually many have said taxes are legal!! 1+1=2
     
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    why be so absurd all the time???. If tariffs were unconstitutional Democrats who hate Trump would be all over it all
    the time!! This cant be over your head???
     
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    See how you didn't actually address what I said in the slightest and are dodging again?
     
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    . . . have you read a single thing I wrote or are you just plugging this all into a random word generator.

    No one on this thread said that all taxes are illegal. No one. Ever. Why do you insist on spreading that fantasy?

    Since you still haven't consulted the Constitution: it is the authority of Congress, not the President, to create taxes. So Trump hates both due process and the separation of powers.
     
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    What you said was too trivial and absurd to address. Why not write to Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi, tell them you're are great legal mind, and have discovered that tariffs are unconstitutional. See how Marxists have distracted you?
     
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    No one said all tariffs are unconstitutional. No one. I'll try typing slower. Let me know where the disconnect is:

    1) Tariffs are taxes
    2) The Constitution says that taxes are Congress's power
    3) The President is not Congress

    I seriously don't know how to make this any simpler.
     
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    I see how you've distracted. Not the imaginary Marxists. No one said that all tariffs are unconstitutional. Tariffs created by Congress are constitutional. You'd know this if you had read what the Constitution has to say about it.

    If you think the Constitution is "too trivial to address," maybe don't create threads that pretend otherwise.
     
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    who cares if he hates it?? he cant even built a wall his no one promise so separation is stronger than ever. And so is peace with North Korea. The Marxists won't let you focus on important things will they?
     
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    you're on to something big!! Why not write to Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi, tell them you're are great legal mind, have discovered that tariffs are unconstitutional, and they use your wisdom free of charge to deal a crushing blow to Trump!!!.
     
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    The founders were almost all Deists not Christians as the evangelicals would have us believe. Many were Masons. The only big government they feared was England and European' aristocracy and royalty. "Liberal government" had little to do with the times. Most governments at the time were aristocracies. Whether they held "strong Christian social values" is debatable. Most were wealthy owners of land and slaves.
     
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    Who cares if liberals hate it? No use blaming it all on imaginary Marxists.
     

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