If our Constitution made liberalism, in effect, illegal what should we do with them?

This is without a doubt the single most pathetic and laughable thread in PF history!

Our Founders opposed "liberalism"????

1 ~ Jefferson: no standing army (by contrast right wingers want continued huge military wastage)

2 ~ Hamilton & Washington: building up of the infrastructure (righties believe government has no role in this even though they are the biggest beneficiaries of it)

3 ~ Thomas Paine: income equalization & social security, agricultural subsidization

4 ~ Jefferson: free education (Univ of Virginia)

5 ~ Washington: no foreign entanglements

6 ~ Madison & Hamilton: freedom of the press & disestablishment (found in Bill of Rights)

7 ~ Constitution: regulation of business in Commerce Clause (right wingers do not believe in regulation) Article I, Section 8




As shown on previous threads, forum right wingers are seriously deficient in their knowledge of history. This is why they lose debates so readily. The OP should do extensive amounts of homework so that he can learn what real American history is all about. He will then learn that our Founders principles were largely liberal in outlook.

 

So you still refuse to read or acknowledge the Constitution. Let me know when that changes. Then maybe someone can treat your OP seriously.

Reading comprehension fail.

 

Right-wingers can become fascists and put leftists in camps

 

Founders were Christian Diest Enlightenment followers of Locke Montesquieu etc with very conservative traditional social Christian values much like modern Republicans!! Lets begin your education shall we:

"I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen."
~John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, December 25, 1813.


Thomas Jefferson: "notwithstanding these advantages a system of morals is presented to us[by Jesus] which if filled up in the true style and spirit of the rich fragments he left us would be the most perfect and sublime that has ever been taught by man." "His moral doctrines relating to kindred and friends were more pure &perfect than those of the most correct of the philosophers, and manifestly more so than those of the Jews and they went far beyond both in inculcating universal philanthropy, not only to kindred and friend, to neighbors and countryman, but to all mankind, gathering all into one family under the bonds of love, charity, peace, common wants and common aids

 

wrong of course!! they saw liberal govt as the source of evil in human history

Does the liberal want to see 100 quotes?????

Thomas Jefferson:
That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

"The path we have to pursue[when Jefferson was President ] is so quiet that we have nothing scarcely to propose to our Legislature."

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison

 

you mean had everything to do with times!!!. Our Founders were 100% against liberal statist govt whether monarchist or communist progressive and thus made them all illegal here regardless of silly rationales. Now do you understand?.

 

this is not liberal conservative issue since both want a standing army; perhaps because we cant design and built anti missile system after nuke has been launched at us!! Slow?

 

no idea what you are trying to say??

 

which is why he opposed standing armies

ironically he believed in slavery by buying & selling human beings - slavery gave to those who would not do their own work

 

Only an idiot or a rrrwf fringe member would think that liberalism equates to statism and liberals are not consitutionally true americans.

Be nice if the OP had a friggin clue what the constitution actually states, what the founding fathers had in mind and what "liberalism" actually is. I doubt a dictionary would help.

But then again, bumpersticker bullshit is the lifeblood of partisan hacks.

 

Conservatism does not know anything.... an ideology does not have a mind

English not your first language or did you flunk out at a young age ?

 

What actually is that site?

 

1) I beg you, when you think you have scored a really great point, to remember that you are a liberal
2) I beg you to notice that you would rather change subject to grammer because as a liberal you have no substance
3) I beg you to learn that, figuratively speaking, an ideology can have a mind:

7 types of figurative language

• Personification. Giving something, nonhuman or an object, human characteristics.
• Hyperbole. An exaggeration so dramatic that no one would believe its true.
• Metaphor. A statement that is a comparison of two things that are not alike.
• Alliteration. ...
• Simile. ...
• Onomatopoeia. ...
• Idioms.

 

Don't cry like a baby for pointing out your nonsensical use of grammar - especially in light of the fact that your post had no substance. You then blubber on about others having no substance - transferring your failures on to others.

 

All citizens have to pay taxes. Billionaires and millionaires would still have luxury if they pay 80% of their free income as taxes.

 

Many people commit their first crime -- murder or suicide with a gun.

How can we prevent guns from falling into the hands of people with Severe Depression?

 

Definitely, most (#notall) Liberals support

-- Reverse Discrimination
-- Presumption of Guilt
-- Censorship

Unfortunately most (#notall) Conservatives support

-- Social Darwinism
-- Guns for people who are suicidal
-- lack of Welfare for people with Mental Disabilities

 

Anyone got the recipe for Soylent Green? But then they would probably make bitter Soylent Green, since they are so bitter in real life.

 

conservatives endorse

censorship (of those who disagree with them)
discrimination
presumption of guilt to anyone not of their fold



as usual, there may be exceptions to this rule though few in number

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=rec...rome..69i57.4543j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

Liberal and socialist aren't the same thing. At all. As a socialist, I speak with athutarty on this point, we hate liberals as much as you do.

And not in favor of big government? lol You basically had 3 factions at the convention, communists, bankers and slaveholders. The 1st were anarchists, the 2nd were all about big government and the 3rd were less about small government and more about state supremacy over the Feds. The big government bankers won (with compromises) by the way.

 

. actually identical just different statist strategies to always make govt bigger and individual liberty smaller. Do you understand

 

even Trump cut taxes, regulations and obamacommiecare. Very conservative court nominees and will do far more when the support is there. Do you understand?

 

you clean forgot to answer question??? Do you know why?

 

you learned what figurative speech is. why not be grateful for the lesson? Are liberals too proud to learn?