If you don't want a baby, get your tubes tied.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Jul 31, 2013.

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    When you ask a hypothetical question then you should expect a hypothetical answer .. If I thought for one second that having a law that defined a fetus post viability as a person would in some way appease the radical pro-lifers then it would be something I would seriously consider supporting, however whether I would support it depends on the terminology of the law and whether such a law is really required .. but .. within that law there would have to be specific exclusions for medical issues regarding the woman or the fetus, I would never support a law that made ALL aspects of abortion illegal no matter what .. however I know and you know that it won't end until one side or the other gets exactly what they want.

    Roe is a very conservative law, had SCOTUS been more liberal they could very well have declared abortion legal at anytime for any reason, the fact that they allow states to impose restrictions is one of the reasons we are where we are now, had they not done that then laws such as the UVVA would not be in existence, by the ruling they made they have created a rod for their own back.

    Sigh . .here we go again.

    Where do I say "I don't care"

    The problem you have is that you are trying to accord meaning to something that simply doesn't happen .. I have asked you numerous times for any evidence to show that ANY late-term abortion is elective, let alone for rape or incest . .so far you have provided nothing, nil, zero. So you can continue to spew what ever you wish, until you can actually provide some evidence to support your absurd assumption then, like you, the assertion is pointless.

    Wow such an emotional appeal .. nearly made me change my mind (not)

    Yet again I see your lack of understanding of the English language . .do you know the purpose of torture, and if so, please do tell me how it relates to abortion.

    One other thing you seem to forget is that a fetus is under heavy natural sedation until just after it is born, the reason for this is that it would quite likely suffer huge trauma during the birth process.

    The three chemicals mentioned above are all types associated with anesthesia.
     
  2. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Still, you avoid my questions. This only shows that you have very little confidence in your ownopinions. Are late term fetuses persons, or not? Should the law classify them that way?
     
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    More advice from a man about what women should do with their bodies.

    How silly. Why would any woman take advice from a man who addresses them as "you women"?
     
  4. Montoya

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    Yes it is about picking and choosing. In America women have that RIGHT to CHOOSE. Abortion is perfectly legal and perfectly acceptable for any reason.
     
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    The fetus has no choice!
     
  6. Montoya

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    You are correct it doesn't. Show me where a fetus has given its opinion or choice on anything please.
     
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    Who in the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you think you are that you get to tell others how to live their lives? Arrogance. Pure and simple.
     
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    women have no right to kill their own children. abortions should not be legal.
     
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    Until, at the VERY least, the brain is active, it's not a child. Sorry. Roe v. Wade was 40 years ago, when are you guys gonna stop whining? Seriously, I'm tired of hearing about it, and it's not gonna change. It's settled law.
     
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    Well too bad for you it is. A fetus does not have a right to own a woman's body. Simple as that. A fetus is not even close to a person.
     
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    in the opinion of Sam and his amazing ego.
     
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    The woman is the parent of the fetus. She has obligations to take care of it.

    The fetus is a living human organism. science says that a new organism is created when the sperm's genetic material combines with the egg's genetic material.
     
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    She isn't a parent until she gives birth.
     
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    prove it. lol.
     
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    World English Dictionary
    mother 1 (ˈmʌðə)

    — n
    1. a. a female who has given birth to offspring
     
  16. Montoya

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    You made that silly claim, you prove it.
     
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    It's still the woman's offspring, regardless of it's geographic location.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    If you don't like abortion, then don't have one. Pretty much the same message.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    I answered you question, I know English (along with biology) is not your strongest subject, but really Sam even for you this is pathetic.

    You asked a hypothetical question and I gave you my hypothetical answer, nor good enough for you .. tough!.

    I have the uppermost confidence in my opinions being as they are backed by subject matter experts and the current law . .where as yours are backed by your opinion and little else.

    Now how about you return the favor and answer the numerous questions asked of you on other threads, it should only take you most of the rest of the day to do so, at least then the rest of us won't have to read your drivel.
     
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    No she does not.

    Not this idiocy from you again. We have well established that you have no clue about science so why demonstrate ignorance over and over?

    You forgot? http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...about-abortion-country-20.html#post1062951049
     
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    Cow tipping again. You even lack the ability to consistently say the same thing. Really pathetic.
     
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    what's cow tipping?
     
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    Just goes to show how well educated you are.
     
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