If You Like Your Politifact Lie of the Year, You Can Keep It. PERIOD.

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  1. Bluespade

    Bluespade Banned

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    Lol, but that's not how it's supposed to work.
     
  2. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh bullcrap. Obama didn't a bit more believe that lie than he did when he tried to become an author and sell coffee table books based on him being a Kenyan Author before he became a politician.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

    He found out liberals are way more gullible than he ever imagined. The guy is PT Barnum reborn.
     
  3. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Birthers do have a basis for their assertions you see. Obama's own publicist.
     
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    Gee lets see Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq! Obama lied about ACA, well he wasn't clear about junk insurance policies. Oh the outrage on the right it was okay for there war criminal to lie, but no one else.
     
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    They were your words. You said he was too inept.

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    I doubt Bush knew. But I believe Dick Cheney knew.
     
  6. Cdnpoli

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    Birthers are idiots. Even the people who want Obama gone so badly concede that he is American.
     
  7. Stuart Wolfe

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    Yes way! That's why we have lists of politicians lies and people who compare them!

    Bush Derangement Syndrome. Five years gone and Liberals still can't let go.
     
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    It is Obama's read my lips moment...too bad the idiots in this country elected him again.
     
  9. Rapunzel

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    You like lying politicians do you?
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    We have about as much quantified proof of that as we did about "If you like it, you can keep it." The difference is, because it's a "possibility" that's denounced on the fringe, no one would dare think about it, touch it or suggest it loudly.

    So are people "conceding" it, or are they at best just pushing it aside as it does nothing to advance real political concerns about a crappy(if not by now unconstitutional) president?

    I believe it's the latter. If enough people were interested enough and/or not convinced enough, there'd be even more of a peep about it. Then the ACA happened and that has everyone's attention.

    But yeah, it was a major and devastating lie. That and the increasing costs as well. People might remember the $2500 lie more than the 'if you can keep it lie'. A doctor's a doctor, an insurance company's an insurance company but money is irreplaceable.
     
  11. Bluespade

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    When you got nothing, fall back on Bush.
     
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    They could dig up Reagan's corpse and run him at this point. The democrats are so screwed.
     
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    Like we needed "Politfact" to tell us what we already heard and saw with our own "lying ears and eyes"....
     
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    That is a mighty high bar you have for the President.
     
  15. AmericanNationalist

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    The fact that the bar's so low is the reason why the last 40 years has been a steadily decline for the American People.

    Since JFK, the rest have been nothing but jokes(though Reagan was decent, all things considered. Among those in the neo-con trenches, he was the best by far).
     
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    Hahahaha....no one is saying that lying is OK. Obama lied, and it is not OK.
     
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    Welcome the public school system...dumbing everyone down, that all they care about is closest free condom, what's free next from the National gov and what's on Dancing with the Stars.

    Your Obama voter
     
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    I see. The old 'someone else lied so this lie is okay' defense. Did that ever work, even once, in your whole life? Please think about what you are saying. Jeffery Dahmer eatrs people, so I guess it's okay for me to do it too. I am not sure that is the best defense for a president who lied and the result of the lie is great harm to the American people.
     
  19. Radio Refugee

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    That's my take on it. It was a grasping, filthy lie designed to implant one piece of legislation that likely would never get the needed public support without it.
     
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    Psychopaths don't feel remorse; they speak strategically, but there's no way they could offer a heartfelt apology. They don't have the mental tools for it. Instead, they will very often blame someone - anyone - else for their wrongs.

    Sound like a certain somebody's MO? ;)
     
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    When did that become acceptable? I'm guessing it's only ever been so in times when people had no real choice of who won an election, meaning that they would have had little choice but to accept (and find justifications for accepting) the filth that would end up in power despite their desire for someone better (i.e. someone honest, forthright and genuinely caring for the public good and safeguarding liberties).

    Our system has been deteriorating for a long time now, and it's reaching a critical point, I think. We're being led to an economic collapse of epic proportions even as our so-called leaders lie and cheat worse than ever before.

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    No one should expect any different from the two ruling parties, at the very least.
     
  22. Whig Out

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    Sure, I agree but since he won't be running for re-election it's hard for that to happen since to try him legally on that would be nearly impossible. You can though vote Republican during the next midterm elections and render him a lame duck president but that's about as much as you or anyone can do.
     
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    "Read my lips.....No new taxes". Bush Sr. did the same kind of mistake except he did it during his first term and he didn't get re-elected but there was no way to legally try him for that as well. So, unfortunately it's just another politician lying. Heck GWB lied and had a bunch of our troops slaughtered and tons of innocent Iraqis killed. He's doing peachy keen and hasn't been brought to court. So again, everyone acting so outraged about it, understandable but get real.
     
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    How come no one in the media saw this coming in the elections?
     
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    I disagree, completely.

    He knew he was lying, he knew what he was saying was completely false the whole time.

    If he didnt lie to the American people, no one would have voted for obamacare.

    nbc abc cnn msnbc are all still lying for the president, theyre pretending the worst is over, when in fact theres gonna be 80 million more cancellation notices going out starting, January 1st 2014
     

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