If you oppose the Muslim Ban, then tell us a BETTER way to stop Islamic terrorism.

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  1. Bowerbird

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    You do not know that it did nothing - to work our that the Obama administration had no effect you will have to wait and see what effect this piece of prime idiocy has. And it was not a :muslim ban if it was then travel would have been restricted from Indonesia
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama had 8 years to do that.

    The rewards of decisive action such as that from Trump adds to safety, not detracts from it. Any president that can make Chuck Schumer cry is well worth having.
     
  3. FreedomSeeker

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    Just wait.
     
  4. Bowerbird

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    And Trump had plenty of holidays with Jeffrey Epstien - spending weekends at Epstiens "slave island" where underage girls were used as sex slaves

    And you worry about a fictional muslim paedophile??
     
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    I got tears in my eyes seeing 'ol Chucky cry!

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    If Mohammad is fictional then our enemy in this war is delusional....doesn't that cause you concern?
     
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    I think if Jesus had married a 6 year old and deflowered her at 9, we'd have a lot more Christians in the world today trying to arrange child marriages. Instead, we find this nowadays almost exclusively in Muslim countries. Could it be that they are merely trying to follow the example set by their perfect prophet?

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    Bill Clinton was there with Epstein. How come you never mention that? Clinton had a lot of problems controlling himself. I wonder how he behaved around those underage girls?
     
  7. FreedomSeeker

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    Yes, Trump admitted that he "grabbed women by the p****" in that tape with Billy, uh, Bush (hehe.) He could have said he "grabbed women by the Bush" and that would have been kind of funny.

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    So did Mohammad.
     
  8. Questerr

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    So you believe in absolute morality that is temporarily transcendent?

    Will you admit that you are evil by some future standard that you don't know about?
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    What part of "underage women" is not paedophilia? Epstien is a confessed paedophile and Trump not only associated with him but is on record as being an admirer

    Some of these girls were barely pubescent
     
  10. FreedomSeeker

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    So which is worse, Brew, RAPING poor little Aisha for a few years (she was a Muslim, by the way), or BURNING her alive for eternity in a "lake of fire" for the "crime" of simply being born into the wrong family/religion through no fault of her own whatsoever. Please tell us, Brew. Full disclosure: this is a test of your moral character, Brew. Me, I'd say that both Mohammad and Jesus are immoral, but that's just me. We await your reply. Thanks.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    Well, we know what Muhammad did.
     
  12. Questerr

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    Of course it should be illegal today.

    By the standards of Mohammad's time is wasn't rape or pedophilia. What right to I have to impose my morality on people from another time, place, and culture?
     
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    I fully condemn Trump (and Mohammad, and Abraham, and Bill Clinton) for their sexual indiscretions.
     
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    I read the thread soup to nuts, and gosh if I couldn't find an answer in here. The progressive line seems to be a resounded "we don't have to offer a solution". It was, sort of the point of the thread.

    So, what we know is this. Progressive policy certainly hasn't stemmed the flow of terrorism in either this or other modern nations. Certainly, then, one could take the view that this is by design. As in, a purposeful tolerance of terror activity. From the progressive view, of course it helps their notion that statism then asserts more weight than individuality and their rights. Transference of rights from the individual to the state then seems to fit well into the narrative of progressive 'merkia'. Why? Because it stratifies their belief in creating the two classes of citizens, being citizens and the political elite who then don't have to live by the law that citizens do.

    So, fear caused by terrorism drives individuals to want to give up personal liberty and responsibility based on the erroneous assumption that government will protect them. The unfortunate side effect is that continuous fear must then persist to maintain the fear that creates this relationship.
     
  15. Brewskier

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    Again, missing from your post is the acknowledgement that Bill Clinton, former President, serial philanderer, and husband to the person you supported in the 2016 election, spent a lot of time on Epstein's island.
     
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    Only 33% of the people oppose the ban. You would never know that listening to the MSM and libs around here
     
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    Islam would do the same to her. At least Jesus never had a child bride, unlike Muhammad. You should be able to put Muhammad below Jesus on that issue, can't you FreedomSeeker?
     
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    You said "no", basically, to #2, so here's a great opportunity for you to grow as a person, by caring for an innocent 9 year-old child more than you obviously currently do, and say "yes, I'd go back in time to save poor little innocent Aisha from being raped by a 54 year old!"
    I enjoy increasing your level of morality to the level of Modern Secular Humanism, my friend.

    I bet Brewskier would answer "yes" to #2, like I did. Let us be role models to you.

    Have a great evening.
     
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    Yes, in some ways Jesus was below Mohammad, but in this case (pedophilia) I have nothing to believe that Jesus was a pedo, so you are right. But being better than Mohammad on something is no feather in one's cap.

    Jesus was probably gay (hung around with 12 dudes, we never heard of him having sex with a woman - ever, he was "just a man" some say, was 33 years old, we never knew what happened to him from the age of 13 -29 - part of his likely most sexually active years.) The gospels say Jesus loved John in a special way - and we all know what that means. So Jesus is likely a hypocrite, since the Bible in multiple places say to KILL GAYS, and Jesus never spoke up on that issue......guess why.
     
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    I dont think you will get away with that
     
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    It wasn't rape or pedophilia by the standards of 7th century.

    Brewskier is a "white nationalist" (the PC term for a white supremacist). I'm betting he would take any side that makes Muslims are any other non-Aryan look bad.

    And you are not a modern secular humanist. If you were you wouldn't say bigoted (*)(*)(*)(*) like "all Muslims are full of hatred".
     
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    Lets face it if it were up to you , you would ban all religious people :)
     
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    In the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, Jesus murdered multiple people. So which is worse, killing multiple people or raping a 9-year-old? It would appear that Jesus is even worse than Mohammad, no? Would you rather be killed, or raped?
     
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    The Gospel of Thomas is very different from the other gospels. People should read it
     
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    Killing non-muslims isn't murder in Islam.
     

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