If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

Of course same with the vaccine.

 

People who had covid do not need to be vaccinated.
The vaccine shot will do no do any good for them other then just it might deplete immune system.
Why do you promote stupidity and support absolutely harmful policies.
We already done with COVID with 80% or more have natural immunity or vaccine.

 

What is your excuse to force people to stimulate their immune system without any kind of possible benefits?
Did not you hear that FDA do not support extra stimulation with boosters?
That means not vaccine should be administered for those who had COVID already.

 

We can't be done with Covid yet. With elections still to come and control in Congress at stake we (whispery voice) neeed Covid.

 

Yea, political science is a mother of all the sciences.

 

Spoken like a true Godless libertarian (I know, I was being redundant). Your mindset of "It's YOUR/MY body and you/I can do with it as you/I please as long as you/I don't harm others goes against Judeo-Christian doctrine and specifically Jesus Christ's two greatest commandments (not suggestions, but commandments). I care (i.e. "give a crap") if someone dies due to foolish actions (and not getting the COVID 19 vaccine is just plain foolish).

That being said: There is no excuse for not getting the vaccine, and those who claim religious reasons are shot down by this article:

Texas megachurch preacher and Trump devotee says there is no 'credible religious argument' against COVID-19 vaccines

"Christians who are troubled by the use of a fetal cell line for the testing of the vaccines would also have to abstain from the use of Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Ibuprofen, and other products that used the same cell line if they are sincere in their objection," said Jeffress in an email.
Texas megachurch preacher and Trump devotee says there is no 'credible religious argument' against COVID-19 vaccines (msn.com)

 

Whoever that is, it definitely includes you. Given that instead of countering what I said instead you keep trying to change the topic. So obviously you do but you won't admit it.

 

Vaccination for what disease? All infectious diseases?

 

So? What does that have to do with this thread?

 

So you DO believe there is some "right" to infect others with a deadly disease. Why didn't you say that from the start? I guess it must be because it's an embarrassing position. So I don't expect you to support it with any sort of logical argument.

 

Are you more likely to contract covid being vaccinated or less likely??

Btw the percentage is 91% who will suffer some sort of long term effects.

 

Of course there is a such a right. My first post in this thread demonstrated the right the obese have to kill others by infecting them with infectious diseases (including obesity) and by causing deaths through accidents etc. How is a kid killed by an obese person in a traffic accident less dead than someone who died of Covid? How is someone who died of a massive influenza induced myocardial infarction they would not have died if not infected by an obese individual less dead?

I already told you it’s impossible to remove the right to infect others with deadly disease. You would have to eliminate all pathogens or all hosts (people).

I can’t believe after 18 or so months of a viral pandemic someone as intelligent as you think you are can’t figure this out on your own.

I’m never embarrassed to follow evidence and logic. Why would I be embarrassed to take the position based on logic and principles of virology and epidemiology?

 

Do you have a study to support the bolded? I would love to see it and look over the incidence of various sequelae that add up to 91%.

 

Dumb question. It has everything to do with the op. And moreso in context of the remainder of my post addressing the op.

 

@Golem, do vaccinated individuals have the right to infect others? Or are they violating a right when they do infect another?

Put another way, let’s say someone is immunocompromised based on the dilution effect adipose tissue has on serum Vitamin D levels and becomes infected because of that serum D level. They infect and kill another individual. Do they have the right to create a transmission of deadly disease just because they ate Twinkies and didn’t go sit in the sun while they were home from work during the pandemic? Why do they have the right to spread deadly disease?

 

@Golem, please supply a quote of me taking an anti vax position. I’m sure you were just busy and forgot…just a friendly reminder.

 

The chance to infect other people is absolutely the same.
All vaccinated people can infect other people vaccinated or unvaccinated.,
The vaccine only help little bit to raise amount of antibodies to fight infection.
Vaccine will definitely help against Wuhan strain that we have last year, but that virus type long gone.

 

Depends if ADE is a thing.

 

91 Percent of COVID Survivors Have Long-Term Effects, Study Says (bestlifeonline.com)

 

I'm for any method.

 

Studies are not conclusive, but most likely false. However, it's off-topic.

 

According to the OSF (A network of hospitals) this may not be the case.

Fully vaccinated less likely to pass COVID-19 to others | OSF HealthCare

Can Non-Vaccinated People Get Vaccinated People Sick With COVID-19? (verywellhealth.com)

 

Read the name of the Forum.

 

Golem, I'm not psychic. I need you to add some more words to that, please.

 

It's not off-topic to the topic of whether everyone needs to get the vaccine.