Illegal immigrants burden UMC

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by TRS, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. TRS

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    There a very corrupt culture.They have no real values,or moral responsibility.
     
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    You know something. What you have said brings up a point I came across last anti-immigration rally I attended. I was approached by an organization that patrols the Texas ranches of the border. I asked a few question what actions they took. In simple there reply was like this.

    We are a militia. We are at the border to protect what is rightfully ours.

    When asked how this could be done,an attorney who represents them said its in the constitution.

    I think its time to visit these people on the Texas border.
     
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    You don't keep informed much do you!
     
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    So, you are making the conclusion that China is going to rule the US?
     
  5. Albert Di Salvo

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    Do you know who supported the Ottoman Empire in its "Sick Man of Europe" phase? Do you know why the Crimean War was fought?
     
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    They work hard, love their families, and are obliviously ignorant.
     
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    The Chinese fear chaos. They have no interest in ruling a chaotic America. They just want to castrate America.
     
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    Often Europeans fighting to make sure there intresets were still met.
     
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    Why have you reached the conclusion that china will rule us?
     
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    He explained that very well.
     
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    Can you see the future?
     
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    The Chinese game is not to seek absolute victory. They seek comparative advantage by strengthening themselves and weakening America. They are succeeding.

    China is not invincible. But for this current lot of Americans the Chinese might as well be invincible.
     
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    What can you tell me about Great Britian and Germany prior to WWI?
     
  14. Albert Di Salvo

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    If one knows human nature one can make rough approximations in a very general sense. I have repeatedly said that America reminds me of other hollow empires that have fallen. My views are post-American. Only ideas survive.
     
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    PM me with your paypal account no. Then we'll talk. :)
     
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    And empires have fallen for many differnt reasons, not just foreign attacks. We can guess, but nothing more.
     
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    What?

    10 char.
     
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    Its probably stolen...
     
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    The subject is too broad, but let me distill it for purposes of this thread. America is not Great Britain before the Great War. It is Qing China in 1890, riven with factions and superstition.

    China is like Imperial Germany if the Kaiser had not f--ked up, and stumbled into the Great War. Our primary hope for the future as Americans is that the next two generations of leadership of the Chinese Communist Party are not as wise, duplicitous and clever as the last two generations. That is a distinct possibility.
     
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    Let's break this post down.

    Great Britian was falling in the late 1800's and prior to WWI, with Germany becoming a rising star. Qing China only wanted one resource when it came to trading, and that was silver. European Powers, notably Great Britain wanted Chinese Goods, such as silk, tea and porcelain. We live in a global economy, we trade with everyone, and we don't try to shut anyone out when it comes to trade.

    WWI was inevitable. Bismark made sure of that. While he won the Franco-Prussian war, and was able to trap France in a series of alliances, he made an enemy out of France, that they would not soon forget.
     
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    The First Opium War occurred in the late 1830s. That's when the Qing were forced to accept opium instead of silver. By the 1890s the Qing had been humbled repeatedly...just as America is being humbled today. Mexico is humbling America. So is China.

    Britain was overtaken by the American and German economies. Germany screwed up repeatedly and lost the prize of global domination. Britain was saved by America. There is no one who is capable or willing to save America.
     
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    Do we have something like the Indian Opium today? Sort of. We have oil. We're addicted to it. But we're a little differnt. Indian Opium (That was what the British imported) was more addictive than the Chinese Opuim. But oil is differnt. Exepect for a few small things, oil is oil. And we produce some of it, in Montanna, Alaska, and Texas to name a few places. And we're becoming more energy smart. Sometime in the future, we're going to need to go green, will the Oil producing countries have a rescession due to the lack of buisness? Of course. But it's something to be expected.

    With the defeat of Spain in the Spainish American war, US emerged as a world power, but it was Great Britian who was on top of the pyramind. But it was falling, against a new player, Germany.
     
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    There can be no green energy in America's future without the consent of the American right. We do not consent.
     
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    Why? What's the probelm?
     
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    The left will not permit the development of the full spectrum of energy like the Chinese are doing. Instead the left prevents development of anything other than green energy. This is now part of the struggle between left and right. We can prevent green energy from ever being cost effective for consumers and reasonably safe for investors. The left will lose. Let America continue to import hydrocarbons from dictatorships. The status quo works.

    Besides, green energy is a subsidized boondoggle for leftist investors like Al Gore. This is part of a much larger ideological struggle. The left must realize that their hopes and dreams will be frustrated.
     

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